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Laugh it up.
But one day.....

For it is written:
“ As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me,
And every tongue shall confess to God.”
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Hmmm..

Nah, I doubt it.
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Laugh it up.
But one day.....

For it is written:
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OK, cool, we're covered then.

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Laugh it up.
But one day.....

For it is written:
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to the glory of God the Father.
(*Philippians‬ *2‬:*10-11‬ NKJV)

We've been over this. Asking an atheist to believe in god out of fear simply doesn't work.

Show me some proof... but until then, but no

You'd have better luck converting me (falsely converting that is) by threatening to take away my internet.
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Referring to this thread...

Inventor of the Laser Dies

It's pretty ironic that Charles Townes, "best known as the "inventor" of the laser", had a "fascination with spirituality" and said

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And here over at LPF is a group of outspoken atheists against religion.

Here's a little supplemental reading about him.
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2005.../05-laser.html
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Referring to this thread...

Inventor of the Laser Dies

It's pretty ironic that Charles Townes, "best known as the "inventor" of the laser", had a "fascination with spirituality" and said



And here over at LPF is a group of outspoken atheists against religion.

Here's a little supplemental reading about him.
Harvard Gazette: Laser's inventor predicts meeting of science, religion
I agree, it could be considered ironic, if the invention required that theism to have been accomplished. Is this case, it would be the same as if he also was gay, and, "ironically", many LPF people were against being gay, or he wore derbies, and many LPF people "ironically" don't wear derbies, etc.

IE: Its not ironic.


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I disagree.
Derbies might come back, would that help?




As you go back in history, more and more people believed in spirits and superstitions, gods, magic, etc. So, our ancestors threw virgins into volcanoes to improve crop yields, burned goats, read entrails, and generally were more likely to be theists.

So, saying our ancestor read entrails to foretell the weather, and, now, we instead use Doppler radar, or Google, etc, is not ironic.



Irony in this context would require that, for example, the prior behavior was at least somewhat related.

Rain, on your wedding day, is not ironic.

Rain, on your wedding day, when you picked THAT day for your wedding, because it was predicted to be the least likely day on the calendar to rain, starts to get more ironic.


Some 90-something year old guy who was religious and invented the laser, and then there being laser aficionados who are not religious is not ironic.

Some 90-something year old guy inventing the laser because god set a bush on fire with it, and it spoke to him and said how to make a laser...later having laser aficionados not believe in god...would be more ironic.

And so forth.




Another way to look at it was that for example, there were SEVERAL people who were involved with "Inventing the Laser", and, Townes actually never made a laser, he did a MASER...

And Gordon Gould or Ted Maiman for example made the first visible light LASER.


So, if any of the OTHER involved scientists were not theists, or not Christian, for example, would it be "ironic" if some members on LPF were not Jewish? Would it be ironic if some members of LPF were not atheists? What if some were not whatever some of those scientists were? Is that ironic?


For example, Gordon Gould has the patents for the Laser, coined the phrase "Laser", and while he definitely drew upon the Maser work, just as the Maser drew on other's work, etc, GOULD is really more of the father of the Laser itself than Townes. (Townes, Gould, Basov, Prokhorov, etc...its the same concept as far as what they believed, vs what they invented)

So, is it ironic if some members of LPF are not whatever religion Gould is, or don't believe what Gould believed as far as god, etc? If you use Maiman instead of Gould, again, does it matter what HE believed in?

Townes shared the prize with Basov and Prokhorov. Basov and Prokhorov were communists. Is it ironic that some LPF members are not communists?

And so forth.


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We're all free to our opinions... something that this country is based on, and was founded on, but continues to be assailed the world over by *gasp* theists.

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It really is a shame that the "bad" Christians really can create a negative stigma for all of us.
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If it makes you feel any better, it's actually the "bad" muslims that worry me quite a bit more now days, and I feel the same way about all religions that force their views on others. (As does christianity, islam, etc,.)
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It really is a shame that the "bad" Christians really can create a negative stigma for all of us.
It reminds me of food coloring. One drop ruins the whole.
But so have other cultures. I wouldn't consider myself racist, however, middle-eastern people have been known to terrorize, so imo, why go near any of them, even if there nice. There's no need, so why do it. However, I would never not talk to someone, I just wouldn't attempt to start anything, cause you never know.
That's what Christianity has done. A lot of stupid "christians" for example the ones that killed Galileo for "contradicting" holy doctrine, where complete idiots.
They had their religion screwing with other people, that's where it must stop.
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I wouldn't consider myself racist, however, middle-eastern people have been known to terrorize, so imo, why go near any of them, even if there nice. There's no need, so why do it. However, I would never not talk to someone, I just wouldn't attempt to start anything, cause you never know.
North Americans have also been known terrorize, why bother with them either? (sarcasm)

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