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Isn't the soul supposed to be immortal?

So if the soul is immortal, what does it matter if the meat sack it's attached to is destroyed?
To God it does. He cares. Ask him why and don't be the judge yourself, because you are one of those meatsacks, and so am I.


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To God it does. He cares. Ask him why and don't be the judge yourself, because you are one of those meatsacks, and so am I.
How do you know he cares?

How can I ask him?

Does god respond to you when you ask him things?
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To God it does. He cares. Ask him why and don't be the judge yourself, because you are one of those meatsacks, and so am I.
I'm going to go stand in a field and keep asking until I get an answer.

Likely I will freeze to death, in which case I can finally settle weather or not there is a God, and should I be proven wrong, will be able to ask in person. Also will ask why he let me freeze instead of just answering a question.

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To a person coming from the outside, and has nothing to do with this "coversation".

I think it's gotten a little over the top. I mean the OP wanted a thread where people could talk about their beliefs without being judge, but I(over the last few days) have just seen people arguing and imposing what they believe on others and their beliefs. If you don't agree then keep posting, I can't stop you but I just wanted to add that from someone coming from out of the conversation(and have been following it) it's become a little much

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Haha, he doesn't speak to you through a audio voice, he speaks through life trials and visions, dreams, impressions, you'll know.

Oh, and thanks Alex you have a point.

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I'm going to go stand in a field and keep asking until I get an answer.

Likely I will freeze to death, in which case I can finally settle weather or not there is a God, and should I be proven wrong, will be able to ask in person. Also will ask why he let me freeze instead of just answering a question.

Wish me luck!
You would be letting yourself freeze. Take enough warm clothing and a good warm sleeping bag and give it a few days. You should also fast for at least 7 days first or at least while in the field.

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If God speaks through dreams, then based off what I dream about God has gone completely insane.
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Uhm, ok, I recently had a very shall we say, FUN time with Emma Watson... and a thai girl I met last week, and then jumped off a cliff into a rainbow cave, but up, not down.

It might have been Scarlett Johansson... I'm honestly not sure, but I do remember red hair, and yes, the carpet matched the drapes.

So uhm, yeah, was god telling me I can defy gravity? Or that I must make it my life's mission to sleep with one of those other women (wouldn't be such a bad crusade ) or that the properties of light and gravity will be changing shortly? was god telling me?

Btw, I usually don't remember my dreams, but that one was weird enough that it stuck. Were I to have it again I'd try to not jump up into the cave

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Well there was one with a flock of seagulls that all had the face of one of my instructors from college.
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To a person coming from the outside, and has nothing to do with this "coversation".

I think it's gotten a little over the top. I mean the OP wanted a thread where people could talk about their beliefs without being judge, but I(over the last few days) have just seen people arguing and imposing what they believe on others and their beliefs. If you don't agree then keep posting, I can't stop you but I just wanted to add that from someone coming from out of the conversation(and have been following it) it's become a little much

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OK, a religious thread where every one DOESN'T say what he believes, or, discuss the merits of it, or, any one else's beliefs...

Not sure what that would look like as a thread?


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Post #2) Me too.

Post #3) I agree

Post #4) I also agree

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Sounds good ARG.

@Teej-You STILL don't get it. There are a certain amount of souls that God created, every time you have a baby, a soul get's attached to a baby the moment the baby is conceived imo, and abortion kills the baby, detaching the soul. God doesn't like that very much. He'll have grace right now, but the hammers gonna drop sooner than later.
OK, here, "what I don't get" is you saying the baby GETS a soul WHEN its conceived. (You said I still "don't get it")



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I keep saying this. How do you expect to understand God. How proud you are to to judge God!
A baby has a soul. The soul was there before the baby was born or conceived. If the baby is never born or conceived, the soul is still there.

And HERE, "What I don't get" is you saying the baby had a soul BEFORE it was conceived....and the soul is existing WITHOUT a baby being needed.

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Did you even read the Bible verses I put forth? The soul is already there, your body was created at a different time then your soul. Your bod is a place for your soul to rest (body-soul unity) and killing it gives the soul no chance to live on earth. You haven't killed the soul though, imo it goes to heaven and recieves a new body, just like the Bible says (Yes it does say so!).

And, HERE, "What I don't Get" is that you say that there's souls floating around but they can't LIVE w/o a baby....but, they don't DIE either w/o a baby...they GO TO HEAVEN AND GET A NEW BABY if a baby they get goes south on them.
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How can I "GET" what you mean, if you keep changing what you mean?




Maybe....

You believe we are awash in a soul soup, and the souls are all waiting for a baby to be conceived even though they don't need a baby, except to live on earth, because they exist w/o them....and babies already have a soul before they are conceived, but also AT the moment they are conceived....


And, you are afraid that w/o a soul, you might go to hell (The Devil is famous for stealing your soul).

So, maybe the bible is sort of like Soul Soup for the Chicken?[/COLOR]


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1 Free soul with every conception!

But what if the baby is destined to be an Atheist?
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But what if the baby is destined to be an Atheist?
A large proportion of babies born to educated parents ARE destined to be atheists. Even babies raised by uneducated/superstitious parents CAN end up as atheists though, etc.

It really just depends on if they are raised/possessed the tendency to question authority and the world around them with a natural skepticism in ALL things, or, if they were crippled by blinders where that skepticism would involve the superstitions.

As god made all of us, and had a plan for all of us....GOD MADE ME AN ATHEIST. By being an atheist, I am following god's plan for me.



I was told that Jesus loves me. And, that I am an atheist. Therefore, Jesus loves atheists.

What a relief...





Anyway, seriously, I DO think its worth discussing at least when "conception" takes place...as its not really that clear cut.

1) We have an egg cell.

2) We have a lot of sperm cells.

3) A sperm bumps into an egg.

4) The sperm bounces off the egg, or, attaches to it, and tries to climb into it....starting to work its way through the egg's outer spiky protrusions

5) There would be a progressive progress here through these outer spikes, etc. The depth of the penetration down TO the outer membrane of the egg would be a matter of degree. MOST sperm never make it through...its there to help weed out the less fit sperm.

6) There are then several more layers the sperm have to get through...and, yet again, the weaker sperm don't make it.

7) Finally, one sperm cell might be fit enough to get all the way in, and, spill its load of DNA into the egg cell's cytoplasm.

8) Then, the eggs and its newfound Y chromosomal DNA, etc...drift along until they can implant and start to grow.

I think most people would agree that conception is probably included within the above phases of the process, and, after that, its a question of where each of US might say, "OK, THAT'S the part I think conception "happened" "

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There are a certain amount of souls that God created.
Source, please.

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abortion kills the baby, detaching the soul.
Where does the soul go?

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I didn't write the comic and that's not the point I was trying to get across, that all are sad.
You posted a graphic saying atheists are sad, but you weren't trying to say atheists are sad?

What point were you trying to get across? Because you weren't trying very hard.

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I the Bible does contradict itself, come out and bring 1contradiction and I will explain it. Do it now!
Genesis 1:11-12 and 1:26-27 Trees came before Adam.
Genesis 2:4-9 Trees came after Adam.

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I was once being chased through a field of grain by a refrigerator that was shooting pudding at me. It then paused, put on a santa hat, and began painting a wagon.

What is God telling me?

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Birth control, however, literally kills the baby after conception.


Do you live in one of those states that bans ѕex ed, or what? How do you know so little about birth control?
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A large proportion of babies born to educated parents ARE destined to be atheists. Even babies raised by uneducated/superstitious parents CAN end up as atheists though, etc.

It really just depends on if they are raised/possessed the tendency to question authority and the world around them with a natural skepticism in ALL things, or, if they were crippled by blinders where that skepticism would involve the superstitions.

As god made all of us, and had a plan for all of us....GOD MADE ME AN ATHEIST. By being an atheist, I am following god's plan for me.



I was told that Jesus loves me. And, that I am an atheist. Therefore, Jesus loves atheists.

What a relief...

Very few babies born to educated parents Are destined to be atheists. Only about 1 in 50.
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