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But Cyparagon don't you know? A God supposedly took the time to create us and all the universe, gave us free will, creativity, and desires, and then made up a bunch of rules to suppress the traits that he supposedly gave us that separate us from the rest of the animals on Earth.

Is it not blatantly obvious that the bible and its teachings we're just created by someone who was likely in power and wanted to subjugate the people under them? Its literally and instruction manual to make people into docile little sheeps.

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If God exists, in some form, and we can only know anything through our senses, creating our individual concepts of reality as our world views, how can we possibly know such, really know God, unless we are also a part of it? anything less and we really only know our own minds/thoughts.
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I disagree but please do point out the parts you find "blatantly obvious"

Mostly because so many things that are considered a sin have to do with questioning authority, independent thinking, creativity, etc.

Those are all things people in power fear.
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Mostly because so many things that are considered a sin have to do with questioning authority, independent thinking, creativity, etc.

Those are all things people in power fear.
I know you were speaking of kings and people of power, but what would God have to fear about you questioning his authority?
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Most of that stuff is pure human perspective alone, IMHO.
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I know you were speaking of kings and people of power, but what would God have to fear about you questioning his authority?
A God wouldn't (which is why believing or not would be irrelevant) but the people in power making up the rules would want to make their subjects fearful of questioning anyone above them.

Hence why the bible isn't a work of God but more likely the work of some people going to great lengths to maintain their power.
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A God wouldn't (which is why believing or not would be irrelevant) but the people in power making up the rules would want to make their subjects fearful of questioning anyone above them.

Hence why the bible isn't a work of God but more likely the work of some people going to great lengths to maintain their power.
Your entitled to your opinion. People in power didn't write the Bible. Name one one person in the Bible who was in power who wrote a book. I'm pretty sure even Nehemiah wasn't in power.
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Well they wouldn't put themselves in the book, and they wouldn't take credit for it either if they wanted people to believe it was the book of God.
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Because its entirely more likely that a book was written by a human being than by a deity nobody can prove exists.
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Can you prove to me that the sun is made of gases? I bet you can't. I believe in non-the less.
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How did his book, have anything to do with power?

p.s. I wanna make sure any disagreements stay in this thread okay? I wanna be certain that you guys aren't letting this thread effect other discussion right?

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Can you prove to me that the sun is made of gases? I bet you can't. I believe in non-the less.
I could if I had the funding. Plus I personally don't need to since hundreds if not thousands of scientists have all independently shown that the sun and all stars are indeed big balls of superheated gasses (and other elements) and had their results peer reviewed.

But if I really so dearly had to do it myself, I could just measure the spectral lines of the sun and compare them to the spectrums emitted by known elements and determine the sun's composition.
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How did his book, have anything to do with power?
So what is this?
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