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I got that of course off of u-tube I did not put the header on there...

I tell you in my post I like Chuck... I never said I didn't... I would have earased the
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It was meant to show you Chucks view see it or not my man... He gets it, someone seems to have blessed Chuck he has it all agreed.


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The religions I respect the most are buddhism (sp?) and islam. I respect all other religions as long as they are not stepping the boundaries.
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Chuck is Awesome. I think that is what Jander was trying to say....plus even Chuck, your hero, is a Christian.

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What a nice thread you've got here, I actually found it interesting to see this one stickyfied... our admin must certainly have a sense of humour! I saved a lot of really funny pics and one-liners to my collection, thanks for those (nikokapo especially)

I just want to add a few thoughts: it seems to be a recurrent topic, even in this thread, that Supers (for lack of a better term) bring up -- how everyone else should "respect" their religion, beliefs, whatever and not even make fun of it. Personally I find that offensive, forcing me to shout "bullshit"! Nobody asks for people to respect beliefs in alien abductions, nobody asks for the countless "Napoleons" in mental hospitals to be given equal consideration in debates. Yet somehow religion must be treated with care, like an unmarried pure girl that never saw the world and will turn her head, blushing in shame at the sound of an offensive word. For centuries (nay, millenia) unbelievers have been tortured, beaten, exiled, forced to renounce their beliefs and murdered, all in the name of religion; and in return, they can't even bare a joke?!

Don't get me wrong, personal attacks in any shape or form are uncalled for. So is violence, even of the verbal kind. But it amazes me to no end to see people who feel threatened by someone making fun of what they believe! Personally I find jokes that poke fun at atheists funny, albeit there are a lot fewer than religious jokes (wonder why?).

Also something that hasn't been mentioned... Supers often wonder why unbelievers are sometimes so adamant in condemning religion, after all what do they care if they don't even believe? The answer is simple -- let's take Britney Spears for example... I don't like her music, I never listen to it and frankly I don't care what happens to her. But if someone else were to play her "music" at maximum, convince TV stations to play it all the time, make laws protecting her "virtue" and force my children to learn about her "art" at school I'd get pretty pissed off and do my best to fight it. This is what happens with religion -- most wouldn't mind if it remained a private affair; but from all parts of the society, it is pushed down our throats by "good-meaning" people and institutions, laws are being enforced on religious grounds and our education is suffering from an all-out attack against science (and here I talk about "our" in a very global sense, it happens not only in the US but all over the world).

Throughout the ages, religion did such a good job of distorting the normal thought processes to the point that people can't even think the wrong kind of thoughts, and the meaning of anything is so relative that everything becomes possible. That's why you'll find religious people also believing in ghosts, mediums, astrology, numerology, rumpology (:-P), homeopathy, aliens from venus and all the other crapshootery that fills the very basic need of... something "bigger". To this day, rational, skeptical and critical thought remains the only antidote against these. Unfortunately, religion itself succumbs to the test -- but on the bright side, we'll get closer to the truth; isn't that wonderful in itself?...

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What a nice thread you've got here, I actually found it interesting to see this one stickyfied... our admin must certainly have a sense of humour! I saved a lot of really funny pics and one-liners to my collection, thanks for those (nikokapo especially)

I just want to add a few thoughts: it seems to be a recurrent topic, even in this thread, that Supers (for lack of a better term) bring up -- how everyone else should "respect" their religion, beliefs, whatever and not even make fun of it. Personally I find that offensive, forcing me to shout "bullshit"! Nobody asks for people to respect beliefs in alien abductions, nobody asks for the countless "Napoleons" in mental hospitals to be given equal consideration in debates. Yet somehow religion must be treated with care, like an unmarried pure girl that never saw the world and will turn her head, blushing in shame at the sound of an offensive word. For centuries (nay, millenia) unbelievers have been tortured, beaten, exiled, forced to renounce their beliefs and murdered, all in the name of religion; and in return, they can't even bare a joke?!

Don't get me wrong, personal attacks in any shape or form are uncalled for. So is violence, even of the verbal kind. But it amazes me to no end to see people who feel threatened by someone making fun of what they believe! Personally I find jokes that poke fun at atheists funny, albeit there are a lot fewer than religious jokes (wonder why?).

Also something that hasn't been mentioned... Supers often wonder why unbelievers are sometimes so adamant in condemning religion, after all what do they care if they don't even believe? The answer is simple -- let's take Britney Spears for example... I don't like her music, I never listen to it and frankly I don't care what happens to her. But if someone else were to play her "music" at maximum, convince TV stations to play it all the time, make laws protecting her "virtue" and force my children to learn about her "art" at school I'd get pretty pissed off and do my best to fight it. This is what happens with religion -- most wouldn't mind if it remained a private affair; but from all parts of the society, it is pushed down our throats by "good-meaning" people and institutions, laws are being enforced on religious grounds and our education is suffering from an all-out attack against science (and here I talk about "our" in a very global sense, it happens not only in the US but all over the world).

Throughout the ages, religion did such a good job of distorting the normal thought processes to the point that people can't even think the wrong kind of thoughts, and the meaning of anything is so relative that everything becomes possible. That's why you'll find religious people also believing in ghosts, mediums, astrology, numerology, rumpology (:-P), homeopathy, aliens from venus and all the other crapshootery that fills the very basic need of... something "bigger". To this day, rational, skeptical and critical thought remains the only antidote against these. Unfortunately, religion itself succumbs to the test -- but on the bright side, we'll get closer to the truth; isn't that wonderful in itself?...

Peace!

P.S.:
Did you hear about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
He stayed up all night wondering if there really was a dog.

And one for the road:
Why did the atheist cross the road? He thought there might be a street on the other side, but he wouldn't believe it until he tested his hypothesis.
Oh my Chuck, you're SO welcome here, fellow atheist!


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If in your post you are ^^^ refering to paganist being tortured in the days of the inquisition then remember Christians were there too...

Also if you were to be givin free moral movent in your life thank Jesus. Cause, sure, he didn't bring the fall of the Roman Empire at first, but if you find in some of the older writings during the Olympics when Romans won their events... you'll see they refered to themselves as The Holy Roman Empire...

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If in your post you are ^^^ refering to paganist being tortured in the days of the inquisition then remember Christians were there too...

Also if you were to be givin free moral movent in your life thank Jesus. Cause, sure, he didn't bring the fall of the Roman Empire at first, but if you find in some of the older writings during the Olympics when Romans won their events... you'll see they refered to themselves as The Holy Roman Empire...

Read the good book argue among yourselves I tried my best "let the dead bury the dead" Luke 9:59-62
Wow, butcher history much?

Ok, the Roman Empire was basically brand new when Jesus was born. It was a Republic for hundreds of years, and then just before the beginning of the common era (~50 BCE maybe? Jesus was born probably around 5 BCE), around the time of Julius Caesar, is when it shifted to the Roman Empire. So really, Jesus was born right into the beginning of the Roman Empire. Before Roman Empire ended, Christianity was made the official religion of the Empire by Constantine. What in the world does Jesus have to do with "bringing the fall" of the Romans?

The Holy Roman Empire is completely separate and distinct from the Roman empire of Jesus and the early Christians. The Olympic games ended before 400CE, and the Holy Roman Empire wasn't formed until after 900 CE. The Roman Empire was never the Holy Roman Empire. Heck, the Holy Roman Empire didn't even include the city of Rome for much of its history.

So I'm really not sure what in the world you were trying to say, but I'm certain it wasn't grounded in any accepted historical fact.

And in case there is any confusion AD = CE, BC = BCE.
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There you go, answered yourself :P

Religious people tend to do that, saying stuff without backing it up with facts...y'know...
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