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Old 07-26-2013, 08:00 PM #2897
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This is an interesting and neat threat, I like it, but let's be honest a lot of it focuses on taking a dump on Christianity.
I don't mean for this to offend, but I dislike christianity just as much as I dislike other religions No special dumping reserved for christianity.

It just gets poked at more on this thread, due to it being the major religion for english speakers, and this being a predominantly english/american/european forum.

It's also not a question of intellect... you could very well be far ahead of me on an IQ test. More a question of requiring evidence to support beliefs.

What you describe, that feeling of community, and unity with like minded people, of people helping each other... it's wonderful, but it comes from the actions of men, your good actions, not a god.

If you do good things solely for the reward of god... idk to me that actually cheapens it. When I help people, I do so because it makes me feel better. Not because I think it will help me after I die.


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If you do good things solely for the reward of god... idk to me that actually cheapens it. When I help people, I do so because it makes me feel better. Not because I think it will help me after I die.
Exactly what I said a few posts back!

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What you describe, that feeling of community, and unity with like minded people, of people helping each other... it's wonderful, but it comes from the actions of men, your good actions, not a god.

If you do good things solely for the reward of god... idk to me that actually cheapens it. When I help people, I do so because it makes me feel better. Not because I think it will help me after I die.
It's funny how that works, I've had some really good/nice friends are openly non-believers, it definitely doesn't take any religious belief for that and I can see how that thought of giving for a ticket to heaven would cheapen it. I take it as "God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him", and do good things out of love for your neighbor, in that way I kinda get both.
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I feel it's commendable that, if you are a believer, that you do not let that influence your opinion about other people who might be of different religion, or are of no religion at all.

I say to people, religion is your own, personal, subjective thing. Do not enforce it upon others, respect everybody's decision. Because they got a reason for it!
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So what I attribute to random chance and/or the good works of individuals, you attribute to God. Gotcha.

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So what I attribute to random chance and/or the good works of individuals, you attribute to God. Gotcha.



This... must be incredibly difficult.
It so often coincides with the wants and desires of the man as to be indistinguishable

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In some way or another yes, I would thank the individual, then at home pray and give thanks to god for the blessing. Ideally at least.

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Yes it is, but it isn't impossible.

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In some way or another yes, I would thank the individual, then at home pray and give thanks to god for the blessing. Ideally at least.



Yes it is, but it isn't impossible.

Here, that is if you'd like to entertain the thought some more.
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Also , you don't need a deity to punish you to be good.
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Romans 12:2
"renew your mind" isn't terribly specific, is it?

Romans 8:26-27
"the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans." DEEP, man. I have to admit I laughed pretty hard. Not sure how to translate that to god's will.

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This one just reads as Jesus saying "Don't listen to me, listen to my dad." It doesn't clarify anything.
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"renew your mind" isn't terribly specific, is it?

Romans 8:26-27
"the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans." DEEP, man. I have to admit I laughed pretty hard. Not sure how to translate that to god's will.

John 7:17
This one just reads as Jesus saying "Don't listen to me, listen to my dad." It doesn't clarify anything.
People who want others to take their book seriously should read through it themselves and make sure the person the book portrayed isn't a sociopath ,bipolar disorder victim ,egoist and a sadist.

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They're just references, your not going to get a clear understanding from just a few verses.

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Many of those laws are old testament which were nullified by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.
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Many of those laws are old testament which were nullified by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.
Ah, yes nullified of course. Forgot that one
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They're just references, your not going to get a clear understanding from just a few verses.

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Many of those laws are old testament which were nullified by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross.
Were they also nullified by the millions the Jews killed under the order of god too?
Were they also nullified by all those innocent women and children, whom's life was stolen by god as he think his own creation which he predicted would be wicked became wicked as he know it would be?

Come on...if a book can't even decide on how the story begun ,you can't expect people to take a book seriously.
May I suggest the Mein Kampf as a better read?
At least Hitler's intention was clear.
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