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If we were "created", who created the "creator"? A serious thought for once from me

I understand in the end this is a question without an answer, but for a religious zealot, it is more convenient to believe their "Truth" is the only "Truth", but is it not just as "convenient" to believe there is nothing with an equal enthusiasm?

Understand I say this with the caveat that all I know is that I don't know...

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Somehow I just don't believe the religious have the "answer" or at least don't put two different religiousos in the same room, unless you want a "bloodbath".

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Easier to accept an answer offered by the world, than to question it and keep searching, for some people.

It's other things I don't understand - why do people of opposing religions (or not belonging to one) keep arguing and pushing their points? Nobody is changing anybody else's religion through words. Yet everybody is trying to do just that. Everybody is like, "If I make valid enough points, the other person will see my logic and correct their viewpoint" while completely ignoring the other person's points because THEY are the ones in need of convincing...

...and both sides in the discussion is thinking exactly that. Nobody will summon up enough sense to enter the mindset of opposing party and try to see it as they see it. Granted, this thread hasn't seen any fierce discussion, probably because of the fact that both would end up banned.

Have you ever seen those people in the middle of the street preaching about religion, possibly with books in hand and on table?

Here's my take:

They are not out to change opinions. Nobody will suddenly convert into another religion because of one person preaching in the middle of the street. But, much like social networking site's posts about preferences, they are searching for like-minded people, and approval.

Quite like here. We don't discuss it to change "other" people's religion. We discuss it to find approval of similar-minded people. Like Laserbeak and Infinitus having a bromance here

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I agree nobody is really going to change anybody's mind and if there were a "real" discussion both parties would just get banned. Kind of the point of post #2702. I think on top of the social networking aspect, the "good deeds" done in the name of "God" are part of it. "blessed are the persecuted" and all.

It is not my purpose to offend but that may not be possible with some. It would be interesting to hear from those who do believe and to hear reasons other than, "because it's in the Good Book".

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Bro-offtopic-tip, in the Quote marks, you can put an Equals sign and name, so it looks like this:
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Not really feeling left-out, no problems there Just thought it'd be a nice example for a point. Right?

Also, good deeds in name of whatever one's preferred diety is, I guess it's better than wars in the name of diety. Or nothing done at all. Still, good deeds done because of common sense or because it's simply a good deed and we're all humans is preferable, I'd guess. I suck at religious discussions Not many points to make without offending the other side.
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Thank you for the off-topic tip

Yes, good point, makes things interesting. Sometimes offending everyone is tempting

Actually a very good start at a "religious discussion" We're not hurling bombs at each other... yet. Right?

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Someone needs a hug!

Actually people do convert to other religions, and to atheism all the time.

For me, I rip on any kind of mindless assumptions. Religion / god is just the biggest.

If I was presented with incontrovertible proof of god, I would still question the need for prayer, proselytization, or adherence to other behaviors unless there was also proof of those behaviors providing a benefit.

All religions in this regard, offer us the benefit as "reward in the afterlife" whether it is a heaven, a bunch of virgins, elysian fields, valhalla, reincarnation, etc,.
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Actually people do convert to other religions, and to atheism all the time.

For me, I rip on any kind of mindless assumptions. Religion / god is just the biggest.

If I was presented with incontrovertible proof of god, I would still question the need for prayer, proselytization, or adherence to other behaviors unless there was also proof of those behaviors providing a benefit.

All religions in this regard, offer us the benefit as "reward in the afterlife" whether it is a heaven, a bunch of virgins, elysian fields, valhalla, reincarnation, etc,.
Otherwise known as "You cannot disprove it in any possible way" claim, which as well cannot be proven, and was not proven, at all, at any point.

It should never be wielded as a point to enforce your argument, it makes no sense. "You'll go to hell" one would say to me. How could you know that? What proof do you have that it exists and that people's souls go there? Don't tell me that it's written in a book, I can write my own book, would that count as proof?
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It should never be wielded as a point to enforce your argument, it makes no sense. "You'll go to hell" one would say to me. How could you know that? What proof do you have that it exists and that people's souls go there?
I saw it on the internetz.

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Don't tell me that it's written in a book, I can write my own book, would that count as proof?
Depends on who's running your marketing campaign

"Stranger in a Strange Land" was rather interesting I think...

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The religious answers is god was, is, and always will be.
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