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Old 09-08-2016, 12:52 AM #1521
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Clinton being ill could be a game changer, especially if it's something that has mental effects (something like urinary incontinence by itself would not make a role as president impossible, not would for example being in a wheelchair but mentally just fine).

IF this were the case it would certainly be an interesting way of trying to win an election promising the first female president and all that, just to have her step down due to health issues, effectively installing Kaine as the next president.

I have no idea if the story is actually true, but if it is, i think it would be a brilliant move for the democrats. Perhaps they figured that Sanders would not have stood much of a chance against Trump (for lack or PR skills, not presidency skills per se) and found this way around it all.



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I have seen people in many states of seizure and none have ever had an episode with a smile on their face. Also, the reporter's immediate reaction is one of surprise, but changes within a second's time to smiling and laughter. If you are willing to hang your hat on this as evidence of her inability to act as president, I think you will be disappointed.
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Obviously i can't tell from some tidbits of video either, it's just a theory.

The concept of running a person that would be unable to work shortly after elections is interesting though: You can present someone with the right properties (e.g. female) to run in the campaign only to replace them shortly after.

I haven't seen this in european politics before, but it could make a decent strategy under some circumstances
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IDK. Sounds like a better movie script than reality. Clinton has run for president in 2008 and only stayed out because Obama was a shoe in. I wouldn't expect her to run if she didn't plan on serving. But, with all the conspiracy theories running around this year, it doesn't surprise me that someone would come up with this one.
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Clinton voted for the Iraq war and then claimed it was her worst vote, imagine that, the most important vote as a senator, to send out men and women to war and she blew it? and now she wants her finger on the button?! I'm with Ventura on this one, Clinton doesn't think before she votes and we have experienced the severe repercussions from it.
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I have seen people in many states of seizure and none have ever had an episode with a smile on their face. Also, the reporter's immediate reaction is one of surprise, but changes within a second's time to smiling and laughter. If you are willing to hang your hat on this as evidence of her inability to act as president, I think you will be disappointed.
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An un biased medical and mental evaluation would be well warranted for someone who is seeking the top position as Supreme Commander of the United States of America and has exhibited more than reasonable suspicion of being compromised, it's a known fact that Hillary suffered from a concussion and was hospitalized for an extended period that prevented her from answering to Congress about Benghazi for months.

When she did appear before congress even I noticed her new coke bottle thick glasses, the kind someone with brain damage wears to compensate for impaired brain function extending to the occipital/visual function.

As POTUS she would have the ability to bring about the end of the world as we know it in just a few minutes time should her illness or dementia set in and render her even temporarily confused, she must be medically/mentally sound, at least sound enough to be in control of her actions at all times.

If she needs an injection of anti Parkinson's medication just to function, then she is not reliable to answer that 3am call and make life and death decisions.

The welfare and security of every living person on the planet is worth Hillary Clinton's health being evaluated.
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Damn, I was minding my own business tonight and someone turned the channel to one with Hillary lying her backside off slinging mud at everyone who would be in opposition to her. Trying to convince people voting rights were being restricted to keep people from voting when I am sure it was really about stopping voter fraud, then she kept saying "we" can fix this or that, "WE" can do this together... THERE IS NO WE when it comes to me, I'm ready to spit nails at her.
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Clinton voted for the Iraq war and then claimed it was her worst vote, imagine that, the most important vote as a senator, to send out men and women to war and she blew it? and now she wants her finger on the button?! I'm with Ventura on this one, Clinton doesn't think before she votes and we have experienced the severe repercussions from it.
Many people who voted in favor of giving Bush authority to use war as a last resort, did so under intelligence from that administration that turned out to be either wrong, or actual lies about Saddam having WMDs and trying to develop a nuclear weapon. Her words when she made the vote was "that he should try to use any means besides war to get him to turn over the WMDs and nuclear materials", both of which didn't exist. Trump supported the war in an interview on the Howard Stern show in New York just one month before the congress voted on it and during the height of the debate, but lies about his support now. Three months after congress voted to go to war Trump said to Neil Cavuto on Fox News "the Iraqi situation is a problem", but that "the economy is a much bigger problem as far as the president is concerned", but didn't say he opposed the war. Trump's first comments that he was opposed to the war came on 8/04 in Esquire Magazine 17 months after the invasion. I believe someone who makes a mistake like Clinton and takes credit for the mistake is more suited than a liar like Trump.
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Stopping voter fraud? What voter fraud? I hear this excuse for the voter ID laws etc. but I've never seen any report or any proof that voter fraud is actually a thing in this country. Election fraud yeah, but voter fraud?
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The guy who scrubbed/bleached the Clinton emails has been given immunity.

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Martha Stewart went to jail for a lie told to the FBI, but Clinton is above the law well past the point of nausea. Clinton was not even under oath when failing to remember when questioned by the FBI for 3.5 hours. It's sickening as is her smug deception.

Today Trump said he would fight terrorist every way possible and not fly millions in the middle of night to hostage takers like Barry just did, and he said he would even work with Putin in the fight against Terrorism even though we have our differences.

Hillary at the end of an 8 minute blather looked like she was about to start coughing, her voice was starting to go, but she still attacked Trump for saying he would work with anyone to fight terrorist, even Putin for the sake of fighting terrorist, yet Hillary attempted to paint Trump in a bad light for saying he would do the job that Obama has failed to do.

Everything about that witch sickens me, if she ever told the truth her head might spin round and round.
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Tony Schwartz, author of Donald Trump's book "The Art of the Deal" spent 18 months getting to know Trump back in 1985 said, "I put lipstick on a pig. I feel a deep sense of remorse that I contributed to presenting Trump in a way that brought him wider attention and made him more appealing than he is." Schwartz said that Trump came up with the phrase "truthful hyperbole" when talking about the value of his assets and net worth, but noted that the phrase is an oxymoron- the truth is the truth and hyperbole is a lie. This should not be confused with Trump, himself, who is an obnoxious moron and has been his whole life. Trump's comment was that he "owes me a lot. He didn't have two cents to rub together when I met him." Obnoxious Moron and author of the phrase truthful hyperbole.
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The Dallas Morning News endorsed Clinton the other day. They have not endorsed a Democrat in 76 years. The list of Republicans that cannot support Trump grows every day. No Republican former president will support Trump. Romney won't support him. McCain barely supports him but slams him everytime Trump gets stupid (often). The list of Republican administration and Republican national security officials that won't support Trump is in the hundreds. That's just the ones that are willing to go public.

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The Dallas Morning News endorsed Clinton the other day. They have not endorsed a Democrat in 76 years. The list of Republicans that cannot support Trump grows every day. No Republican former president will support Trump. Romney won't support him. McCain barely supports him but slams him everytime Trump gets stupid (often). The list of Republican administration and Republican national security officials that won't support Trump is in the hundreds. That's just the ones that are willing to go public.

RedCowboy, why aren't all these people as enlightened as you?
Check post #1520 on this thread. Nice of you to bring it here again from where you live.
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The list of Republicans that cannot support Trump grows every day. No Republican former president will support Trump. Romney won't support him
That is a fundamental problem with the american system that is essentially 2 party.

If the republicans would have cast trump out he would have ran as an independent candidate, attrackting some of the republican electorate, guaranteeing a win of the democrats.

I guess they opted to take a bet on how it actually turns out and considered it somewhat possible that trump would win them the election.

This may have been a choice between a certain loss and a very remote chance of a win, in which case the latter is still preferable in a de-facto 2 party system.
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This is just like before when Barry was re elected....or so we thought.
120% voter turnout.
140% voter turnout.
There was fraud to get Barry his 2nd term.

Will this election be legit?

As for enlightened republicans, the whole system is corrupt, they don't want Trump because he is not bought and paid for, hell maybe this whole sh1t show has been rigged, out of all the candidates we get Hillary and Trump.........SERIOUSLY, but as this POTUS may well be the most lawless in history, any big changes she tries to make are likely to be met with extraordinary resistance.

It's funny people think redistributing the wealth could be a lasting solution, it's not, we will just get government run everything. The really wealthy will be loop holed always and forever, the middle and upper middle class will end up living hand to mouth just as all of us, welcome to the greedy destruction of the once greatest country on earth, this is not some magic goodybag for the average wage slave, this is the death of a once free country.
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