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Old 08-15-2016, 03:53 PM #1265
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My treasured target rifles that I have taken care of for years will not be crushed or chopped up while I am alive.
But it's just an object, no, it's the physical representation of my freedom.

We have seen England and Australia's gun control and the rampant crime that followed, I am keeping my guns as long as I am alive, I have owned guns for 30 years and never shot anyone, I will not be robbed when I have done no wrong. I lock my guns up in a safe and I always practice gun safety as well as teach safety to others, I wont be punished for some madman's crimes.

THE PROBLEM WITH REGISTRATION IS IT ALWAYS ENDS UP WITH CONFISCATION, IT'S AM IMPOSSIBLE CHOICE.
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I want to stay on the law abiding side, but how can I trust my government when they don't hold accountable their own?
When those given our authority become unaccountable?

A man can build a blunderbuss and all sorts of kinetic devices, it really needs to come down to individual responsibility for actions, otherwise we will have to ban 5 gallon buckets, because if you fill that bucket with water a person could drown in it.
But this is not about public safety, tobacco kills so many people, how could anything be done for public safety while tobacco is for sale ready to use everywhere? It's a farce.

We are forced to demand our rights not be infringed out of fear of an unaccountable untrustworthy system.


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Actually, the turmoil in Milwaukee was a long time coming. It is one of the most segregated cities in America, and in 2014 just two years ago, a white cop shot and killed a 17 year old black unarmed teenager. Though the officer was fired, he was never held to account for the taking of the life of a 17 year old unarmed teenager. You have the facts confused in the most recent incident that provoked the riots in Milwaukee, too. No black person pulled a gun on anyone. It was reported that a black man was shot while fleeing who was armed. The other black individual was not armed. It is the culmination of an over policed black community that has been segregated to the dilapidated north end and though they are 16% of the population, they are given loans at a level of 4%. They have been unemployed at a level of 1.5 times higher than the white population and are treated by the police as less than secondary citizens, being pulled over at much higher rates and actually thrown to the ground the police without warning when standing on the street. Get your facts straight. No one in the black community was surprised by these riots. It was only a matter of time.

Though Trump's remarks resonate with you, they have alienated many others and the polls are just catching up to how badly they have done so. He cannot win with only the 40% of republicans who support him. The fact of the matter is he is also bringing the Congress with him in his defeat and it will be a happy day in the majority of America when he is defeated and the Senate is back in the hands of Democrats.
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I doubt the majority of the people will be happy with HRC in office. I also doubt the majority would be happy with Trump in office. I know many that tend to vote Democrat are quite pissed off that HRC is the nominee. I know some of them aren't going to vote. Others haven't said one way or the other. Either way, this country is going to be hurting for the next 4 to 8 years unless a miracle happens and a 3rd party actually gets elected.
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Groups of black teens beating random white people is not justified.

paul? What's your opinion on that statement?
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Sister of Armed Man Killed By Milwaukee Cops Tells Rioters to Burn ?Sh*t Down? in the Suburbs



"Burning down sh*t ain’t going to help nothing. Y’all burning down sh*t we need in our community. Take that sh*t to the suburbs. Burn that sh*t down. We need our weave. I don’t wear it, but we need it.”
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Just lovely. Looks like some people are really looking for a race war or something. Yeah, try 'burning shit down' in the white neighborhoods and see how that goes for you. MLK would be ashamed of these people. Rioting because some thug who actually had a gun got killed by police, and now calling to burn down the homes of innocent people.
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Meanwhile DEA has stated that marijuana will not be downgraded to a schedule II or lower rank.

The the US has a very bad overciminalization problem, fueled by many agencies on all levels with the need to finance their very own existence, and disproportionately affecting people of low income and minorities. This simply can't change until revenue generation and the justice system are divorced from each other.

The deck is stacked even more against low income defendants after arrest, often forcing them into an endless cycle. While ostensibly all are deserving of, and receive a robust defense, regardless of income, the reality is people are mostly on their own once arrested, if they can't afford to hire their own lawyer, and public defenders are not really incentivized to actually fight for their clients, but to just plead them out. Far too much power is given to the state which can leverage the threat of overblown charges to obtain plea deals.

The problem has been ongoing and growing for decades, but now social media is also allowing these stories to get out and spread naturally where before they they could be swept under the carpet, and discredited. It's also much harder to spin the story where photo and video evidence is involved. Pretty much the only option left to the self serving cronies is to try to drag the process out, hoping people will forget. Except it's no longer working.
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paul1598419 What do you think about groups of blacks roaming around beating up whites in Milwaukee?
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MLK would not have agreed, but he would have understood. When a minority is segregated and treated like animals for decades by the same people who are supposed to be protecting them, it is conceivable that a breaking point may be reached. I read the articles of the riots in Milwaukee, but didn't hear about random whites being beaten by blacks. I'm not saying it didn't or couldn't happen as mob rule often takes on a life of its own. Most of the riots were aimed particularly at the police, from what I read.
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The government should not be telling us what we can put in our bodies at all, we are supposed to be free.
LOL, none of us are free, we are slaves to the system we were born into and the government putting out BS that we live in a free country is dumbing us all down, of course we don't live in a free country, we have limited freedom and limited freedom is not "freedom", freedom cannot be divided, if it is, it isn't that.
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I know, we never really own our house, even if it's paid off the property tax goes on forever and if you don't keep the power and water on they will order it boarded up.

I used to wonder why people moved out to the middle of nowhere, now I get it.
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You take tiny bits of things I've said and treat them like it is the totality of my argument. A single black woman stating in an interview to burn down white neighborhoods does not speak for an ethnic minority who has been beaten, killed, arrested, and left to their own demise for decades, only to have the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, cause them to rise up in indignation of their treatment and riot is not a justification for the way they have been treated anymore than the riots, themselves, are justified, though many can understand why. I made a post laying out everything i have come to know about these riots. Take that in its totality if you are going to ask me questions. Don't confront me with an interview of an angry individual, who in the midst of their anger, lashes out with words or even threats of what they might like to see happen. This is not my "cause". It should be the cause of all Americans who believe that if one person is deprived of justice, we all are.
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Meanwhile DEA has stated that marijuana will not be downgraded to a schedule II or lower rank.

The the US has a very bad overciminalization problem, fueled by many agencies on all levels with the need to finance their very own existence, and disproportionately affecting people of low income and minorities. This simply can't change until revenue generation and the justice system are divorced from each other.

The deck is stacked even more against low income defendants after arrest, often forcing them into an endless cycle. While ostensibly all are deserving of, and receive a robust defense, regardless of income, the reality is people are mostly on their own once arrested, if they can't afford to hire their own lawyer, and public defenders are not really incentivized to actually fight for their clients, but to just plead them out. Far too much power is given to the state which can leverage the threat of overblown charges to obtain plea deals.

The problem has been ongoing and growing for decades, but now social media is also allowing these stories to get out and spread naturally where before they they could be swept under the carpet, and discredited. It's also much harder to spin the story where photo and video evidence is involved. Pretty much the only option left to the self serving cronies is to try to drag the process out, hoping people will forget. Except it's no longer working.
I agree with you, it's all about revenue and it's wrong, but I seriously doubt Hillary will change that at all.
p.s. I did not know it was schedule 1, that's ridiculous.

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In Milwaukee
The National Guard has been activated and there is a curfew tonight.
One cop has been killed.
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PAUL when I said YOUR I meant THE, THE cause.

Just like you brought up violence when I never said a word about violence in my post about standing against unconstitutional laws.
Where is your dissertation about the rule of law in Milwaukee?
So do you think the rule of law only applies to gun owners and not poor blacks?

So do you support violence in the case of these people in Milwaukee?
Apparently the National Guard is coming in to calm down these savage animals.

SAVAGE ANIMALS
SAVAGE VIOLENT RACIST ANIMALS

What would you call rioting Whites who targeted innocent bystander blacks?

I see now why you accuse me of what you think, beating people based on race, regardless of your....rather their plight is wrong and is not the way to get justice.

Non violent protest is, and the cop who shot the kid was BLACK, and the kid had a gun.

You are biased and you think Hillary will help poor blacks. LOL NO she will bring the super predators to heel, HER WORDS.

This kind of violence is not the way to get attention, there is no justification for it.

I have said many times that I would not attack anyone, only defend if attacked, you accuse me of what you think, you are the racist.

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I have never condoned violence of any kind anywhere, or in any post here. Where do you get this stuff? I personally don't have a plight. I'm doing well financially and otherwise. I believe that blacks have been discriminated against in the past, and now it is repeating the discrimination that was getting better, but in recent years is going backwards. Milwaukee is a good example of this as their schools were better back during the 90s than they are today. There has been a systematic change taking place there, promoted by the local government and the police department. If you mean "the" then say that and not the possessive "your". I can only take your meaning by the words you use. I suppose that will get me another diatribe about my meaning, but I do pick my words carefully. You should try it.
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Like I've said before you are mixing two different laws and are ignoring the actual statute since you disagree with it. The laws that determine culpability
for vehicular manslaughter are not the same as the laws that determine culpability in this case. The standard as it reads in the statute is the person must be proven to have had malicious intent to release classified information to person or persons not given a security clearance. This isn't even a close call. Like the director of the FBI said, no one would bring this case to court.


Concerning blacks and other minorities, it is pure fantasy to imagine Trump would get more than 1% of this vote. And being Trump, that will not change. A non-Republican couldn't wish for a better candidate to run against. Blacks will not stay home as they have been ardent supporters of Obama and he is coming out for Clinton.

BTW, what do you mean by hardworking blacks? Like there are the good blacks and the lazy blacks? That is why this election's results will come as a complete surprise to you. You don't even see some blacks as people.
I explained to you when you said this than my friends and neighbors are black folks, and those who work hard to raise a family tend to be more conservative.
This has been my real life observation.

You are so biased, I still think it's ridiculous that people should get to vote without showing ID, you're a racist paul and you don't mind voter fraud if it gets what you want, NEWS FLASH Hillary will screw over everyone.
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