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Old 08-13-2016, 05:30 AM #1233
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As I recall, Scalia was among friends at a resort or some other place where he was more than safe. He was old and believe it or not, they just die. A conspiracy theory is so much better entertainment, though. Where is your proof? Where is your evidence, for that matter? Not speculation because it fits your theory of the world, but some piece of evidence that could be used in court? No? Someone saying he was found with a pillow on his head doesn't mean he doesn't even sleep that way. And Hillary Clinton's saying she wouldn't mind appointing Obama to the court means nothing. That statement with a pillow over the head is your proof? Join the 30% who will vote for Trump.


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This Alex Jones individual is an idiot and ignores the history and reality of the beginning of ISIS.

Visit: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/don...y-and-reality/ This site has had 81,238,841 visits since 2/4/03.


The GOP seems to forget that ISIS has been in Iraq for more than a decade. It started out under the name al Qaeda in Iraq and was the chief adversary of American forces after the fall of Saddam Hussein. This faction broke with the main al Qaeda and called themselves Islamic State in Iraq, or ISIS.
The decision to remove troops by 12/31/11 was not made by Obama, but was negotiated and signed by George W. Bush with the Iraq government in the Status of Forces Agreement, or SOFA, in the final days in office prior to Obama taking the oath of office. In the year before pulling out forces, the United States attempted to negotiate a new SOFA with the Iraq government to allow a small training force to remain behind, but an agreement was never reached. Without a SOFA, it would have put our forces in danger from Iraq Justice System and would also have been a violation of international law.
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A lot of American blood and tax dollars were spent in Iraq and Obama just gave it all back by pulling out before the new Iraq army was ready.

All that spin back to Bush is ridiculous as Bush had no control over what Obama would do after he was out of office.

ISIS came into power during OBAMA, it is the Obama presidency that failed to address the issue and Clinton was less than worthless.

Even IF and I say IF Bush is to blame for rainy days and run over puppies, Obama still failed to stop ISIS from coming into power.

In 8 years the Obama administration including criminal Hillary Clinton failed to prevent the highly active terror organization from becoming a household name.

Now we see terror attacks around the world and even here, and it is likely to continue to increase as that has been the pattern.

Hillary Clinton is an utter failure, her plan is to raise taxes and stifle American business while working to limit the rights of citizens, I doubt she will do anything to prevent the Terrorist from advancing their agenda as in the last 8 years they have only become more active.
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JEEES! You don't have to go the site i put up, but go to any fact checker site that isn't from some YouTube hack and see when and where ISIS came from and about the Status of Forces Agreement negotiated and signed by Bush which pretty much tied Obama's hands as to when we would leave Iraq. Any fact checker is going to show that ISIS was around more than a decade ago. And it is a fact that we left because the Iraq government wouldn't give any Americans a pass in Iraq's courts. Why you continue to use these YouTube hacks who can and do say anything they feel like without any acknowledgements to the factual history. I guess when it's all you have, you use what you can. You want to blame Obama for ISIS, but every historian claims that America can't just go into a country and change its political and social structure. Countries have tried to do that since the end of WW I and it never works out. We had to fight another WW just because of thinking like that. America is limited in what it can do in the world, unless you are willing to use nuclear weapons. Trump is in favor of using them. He has said so many times. Once one is used, there is nothing to keep many tens of thousands of thermonuclear war heads from coming our way. If only half of them makes contact we are done.
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Nuclear weapons, you mean like the weapons North Korea is building, and soon Iran thanks to Mr. magic pen and phone.

8 Years and you say it's Bush, NEWS FLASH.....Bush has been out of office, we have had President golf cart for 8 years.

What has he done?
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor....PEROID

His PEROID is like his red line, Worthless.

In 8 years Obama/Hillary have been failures, and your excuse is Bush...BOOL SHEET!
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No. Not like nuclear weapons that North Korea or Iran was working on. I mean thermonuclear weapons. Many, many times more powerful than the ones you are talking about. I never expected to change your mind. It is made up. It has been since Obama won the election twice and you have applauded every time a Republican has tried to make something out of nothing. I put the truth here for open minded individuals. They can watch your YouTube videos and see my links and decide for themselves.
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FYI, we never fully pulled out of Iraq. Even news outlets stated that we still had small numbers of military over there.
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That makes sense as I'm sure we have an embassy there, and we went there for their oil, which was the first thing we took over after we invaded. But, we haven't had regular troops there since the end of 2011.
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N. Korea is said to be testing hydrogen bombs. Years ago they lacked the precise high speed electronic timers and HE to compress the pit, but today they are quite modern and have access to Chinese technology.

How open minded do you need to be to believe mean old Bush caused it all 8 years ago and Obama has been helpless to do anything, what total nonsense.
Obama has dome much, such as going to war with Libya without Congressional approval, arming extremist, drone strike killing many people and lets not forget Obamacare.
I wish his hands were tied because his magic pen and phone have been plenty busy.
You talk about what Obama couldn't do because it would have been illegal, that never stopped him, and Executive privilege has been invoked to conceal things more than once. Yet you say we are not open minded if we don't accept your BS that Bush did it and Obama has been powerless for 8 years, nonsense.

p.s. I don't believe much that you say paul, you are very one sided and use spin tactics, you attempt to discredit what you don't like but tout pro liberal sites as accurate, the mere concept that a sitting president has zero accountability for anything over his last 8 years because of the previous president, except of course where he is in a favorable light sounds like complete and total garbage to me, and saying people are not open minded if they don't buy your brand of BS is like the sales tactic that you can make money with this system if you have the ambition or are not afraid to be successful.
I think you would stretch any shred of truth to distort a point, fact is 8 years and we have seen some screwed up dealings, the Iran deal was all Obama and it sucks.
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There are many people who have the Affordable Care Act insurance who couldn't get insurance before and are very happy to have it. If Obama was such a terrible president why are his approval ratings up over 52% (last time i looked). I don't care what you have to say as I have seen it all and it is far from balanced. i have used conservative sources for much of my arguments and news sources. Including the New York Times and others. Don't forget to vote. I won't as my state makes it easy by mailing my ballot to me weeks before the election. I also help others to fill out their ballots as it is a service I am happy to provide and have for years. People still call me from all over the country to ask my opinion on a candidate. I not only tell them who i voted for, but why.

We didn't send troops into Libya. Pakistan has nuclear weapons because China sold them what they have. Are you trying to say that Obama should have done something about that? If so, what? Drones are not something I agree with, but many Republicans do. And, i just saw another Clinton ad today. It was Trump saying Trump stuff. Brilliant!
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Washington Post, today: Glenn Beck had traveled across the country to stop Donald Trump from winning the Republican nomination. He didn't succeed.
At the RedState Gathering, a conference of Republican activists,Beck acknowledged that many Republicans would vote for Trump to keep Clinton from being elected. He would not. Trump was not invited to the Gathering. Beck, Republican Sen. Ben Sasse (Neb.) were among the anti-Trump speakers to the hundreds of conservative activists who attended. Only "40% of Republicans enthusiastically support Trump" said Leon Wolf, editor of the RedState Gathering. "How far do we have to go to alienate these people?"
In 2015, Erick Erickson disinvited Trump from the Gathering citing the candidate's comment that Fox News debate co-moderator had "blood coming out of her wherever" when she grilled him during the debate. "I just don't want someone on stage that gets a hostile question from a lady and his first inclination is to imply it's hormonal," said Erickson. Few conservatives who came to Denver were enthusiastic. Steve Deace, an influential radio host in Iowa predicted Trump would lose, then stick around to hurt the conservative movement.

Associated Press, today: Donald Trump goes on a tear against the media, not Clinton. "If the disgusting and corrupt media covered me honestly and didn't put false meaning into the words I say, I would be beating Hillary by 20%" he tweeted before noon. It was the latest in a series of implicit acknowledgements by the Republican nominee that he is not winning, and in fact could be headed for a big loss to Clinton on Election day less than three months away. Gaffe-by gaffe, additional Republicans have come forward to say they are not supporting his bid, with Carlos Guitierrez, Sec. of State under Bush, announcing his support for Clinton today.

CBS News: Maine (Republican) Senator Susan Collins said on Face the Nation "It is inexplicable to me that anyone, much less a presidential candidate, would not honor the sacrifice and empathize with a family who lost a son in war." Collins announced in a Washington post op-ed that she would not be voting for Trump.
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I'm going to limit my political posts on these forums because I'm already knee-deep in political discussions in so many other places, but I will say that one of my major fears in a Clinton Presidency is the possibility of sweeping gun legislation. As a strong supporter of the 2nd, I'm worried by arguments like "can't fly, can't buy" that would destroy due process, bans of particular guns and ammunition that is a slippery slope I don't want us to slide down, and reversals of landmark SCOTUS rulings. Call me a one issue voter, but given the pervasive flip-flopping and lies, I really can't take the statements of either major candidate at face value or predict how they would act on other issues.
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That's the NRA argument for no legislation to regulate guns in any way what so ever. The "slippery slope" argument. You can't say that any regulation would bring about the end of gun ownership in this country. It doesn't stand up to historical scrutiny. You can no longer own automatic weapons without a federal license, but that came about from all the organized crime happening during the years we had a ban on alcoholic beverages. You can't own RPGs or other type weapons, but this hasn't lead to a disarming of America. It's just an excuse.
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I'm in a very awkward position politically speaking. I'm pretty thoroughly progressive/liberal in all areas except gun control and immigration.

I don't think we should be letting in a ton of people from countries that hate us, and I also think gun control is a 'feel good' wannabe solution to more complex issues.
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