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Old 08-11-2016, 09:25 PM #1217
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It's comments like these and the people who applaud them that have Trump so far down in all the polls. From every story I've read in the news, he really still hasn't made a real plan as to how he is going to win this election. There are about 30% of the population who will gladly cast their vote for Trump, no matter what he says or does. It's not nearly enough to win. I can't say that it is too late for him to turn it around, but the window of opportunity is closing fast. From what I see on a weekly basis, he has no intention of changing for anyone. He said as much to the Republican chairman today.


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We left Iraq because the elected government there would not give our contractors blanket immunity from Iraqi justice for the people that they were killing that weren't part of any insurgency or ISIS. In other words, they would be held to account in an Iraqi court of law. We were given an ultimatum: either comply with Iraqi law or get out. It was the Bush administration that held these elections up as democracy in action. Now, you blame Obama for leaving. It does have the ring of truth.

The DEA has been using it's power to target people with cash in their possession while traveling on public transportation services. That's planes, trains, buses and so forth. They have been getting their information from the people who work for these companies in violation to their agreement not to give out this information. The DEA has been rewarding people who identify people who are carrying cash with a percentage of the cash they seize without a warrant and rarely if ever bring charges against the people whose cash they take. One of the biggest proponents of the DEA is Bill Bennett who was Reagan's drug Czar. It has been Republicans like him that have stood in the way of decriminalizing drug possession. Colorado and Washington state both have recreational marijuana use that Obama has told the DEA to stay out of. I don't use it myself, but i have known many people in the past who did and I never heard of anyone being negatively effected beyond what they already had wrong with them in the first place. No one has ever over dosed on any amount of marijuana and that is a documented fact.
Hey we agree there, civil asset forfeiture is theft and it makes me mad as hell just hearing about it.

If people want pot let them have it, take the illegal profit out it.

And the DEA needs to be abolished, they let big pharma like Perdue jack prices 1000% for a time release formulation and then gets laws passed to force patients onto it.

The problem is Hillary won't fix it, she will just take a payoff.

I seriously want to see less government and more freedom, NOT absence of government, just less theft and corruption.

I don't know how this will happen until people force it, and I am sick of hearing about gun control, I am not going to be punished for the crimes of a fraction of a percent of the population, I have a real problem with my rights being infringed because of a very few assholes.

It seems like money and power will always win and the little people get stepped on, well I am not a door mat and I do want change, but real change and Obama did not deliver, and I seriously doubt Hillary will do any good, I expect the opposite.
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Seems we do agree on some things. Obama has done a lot that he said he would. He is constrained by congress on much of what he said he would do. For instance, he tried to close Guantanamo Bay, but Republicans blocked that. He has made the DEA stay off the necks of State run dispensaries in Colorado and Washington for recreational marijuana, so that is good. You believe that Clinton won't do the same, but i disagree. I think she will try to do much of what Obama has tried to do and that is fine with me. I think Obama was late with some of the things he should have done earlier, but he's got an above average approval rating. You seem to think Clinton will take all your guns away, but i don't believe she will as she has only asked for common sense gun regulations that a majority of Americans approve of. Now, the NRA doesn't believe in any restrictions and I get where they are coming from. It's not my opinion, but people differ on some points. It is up to this election to decide where the country will go.
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The DEA has been a son of a bitch towards chronic pain patients, my school friend and his now deceased father who live up the street are tree men and both have fallen, both have had long term chronic pain, my friend fell something over 50 feet and broke a lot of bones, shattered his left arm into powder as it crushed a bird bath, he can hardly bend it and still he climbs trees, he's a tough sob, but every year the DEA has a quota for their pain meds and a couple years back his dad ran out and had several heart attacks, he's gone now because the hospital would not give any pain meds to chronic pain patients...WTF this man worked hard all his life.

I know there is an epidemic of pain meds abuse and heroin, but to deny a long term patient until he has a string of heart attacks over a quota, like that's the way to stop abuse, with a blanket quota that hurts innocent people.

The system is F&#%ED.

As far as common sense gun control, THAT IS BS, no NRA member I know wants any new laws, they don't enforce the existing laws.

Hundreds of people killed in Chichago this year and they don't enforce the existing gun laws, it's a lie, they want to take the teeth away from the complaining people, WE DO NOT WANT ANY NEW GUN LAWS.

As far as pot I say make it legal, I don't want it but I can see that taking the illegal money out of it will be good all the way around, it's better than alcohol, no stoner goes home to beat his wife, but that's not the point, we are supposed to be free, we should be able to smoke cat sh1t if we want to, it's no ones business.
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I said the NRA doesn't believe in any gun restrictions.


Edit: You've got to see this at FactCheck.org today on Trump's account of the beginning of ISIS. It is amazing. Trump just makes stuff up and passes it off as fact even when telling the truth would be as effective as lying he still lies. It's as if he actually believes the things he's saying even though it is so easy to check and prove him wrong. Just yesterday he said " We shouldn't have ever got into Iraq. I said it from the beginning, I said it from the beginning. We had a president who decided he was going to announce a date and he was going to get out by that date....The real problem is ISIS. And they sat back, and sat back....And we didn't leave some small forces behind to keep it under control...And we decimated one of the powers and unleashed fury all over the Middle East. In fact they honor President Obama. He is the founder of ISIS."

The fact is there is no evidence that Trump opposed the war in Iraq before it started, despite his frequent claims to the contrary. George W. Bush set the date we would leave and signed an agreement to that effect. Trump supported withdrawing all troops from Iraq in an interview with CNN on 3/18/07. This article is long and very specific in its details about trump's lies. Just look it up, it is hilarious how his mind works.
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For the second time in less than a month, Donald Trump is writing off a statement he made as sarcasm. "ISIS is honoring President Obama." Trump said Wednesday during a rally at Ft. Lauderdale, FL. "he's the founder of ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton." Trump doubled down on the claim Thursday in an interview with Hugh Hewitt, "everyone liking" the comments. "I know what you meant. You meant he created the vacuum, He lost the peace", said Hewitt. "no, I meant he's the founder of ISIS", Trump replied. "He's the most valuable player. I gave him the most valuable player award." But, today Trump tweeted that he was being facetious: Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I called President Obama ( and Clinton) the founder of ISIS & MVP. THEY DON'T GET SARCASM? Donald J.Trump.
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Obama did arm ISIS and send military trainers early on, we are all the time arming one side and then the other.

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What does this have to do with Trump tweeting that his remarks were sarcastic? I repeated the story that he made this claim. Twice in two days and then walked it back. Your YouTube video isn't even showing up.
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Hillary is going to lose, this is just a carrot for you Clinton supporters so later you can say, Oh she almost had it, maybe next time.

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That's funny, but you don't really believe it. Trump keeps going down in the polls and there is no denying that. Clinton is a shoe in unless something very drastic happens. And it ain't Youube videos.
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Polls change, she wont win, and if she does then buckle your seatbelts, because I expect nothing short of a revolt if that above the law queen starts trampling our freedoms.

For the sake of America I hope we don't get Hillary, she's a lying criminal and will likely destabilize an already anxious country.
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Your comment sounds very much like the ones Trump has made. It's all "threatening" what will occur if Clinton wins this election. You may know some unstable people who may do something Second Amendment like to someone when Clinton wins, but if it happens, it will be dealt with by law enforcement and/or the Secret Service. We live in a country of laws and there is no way around that. Please don't tell me what "Crooked Hillary" has done. It has gotten far too old.
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A country of laws...LOL
It's a president that's already happening.
The federal law says pot is illegal, yet some States say it's legal for medical uses, others say it's legal for recreational use.....but if you are a Federal employee who lives in a pot legal State you still have to pass a drug test and get fired for a State legal drug because the Federal law says it's illegal.

States are allowed to regulate firearms even though our Constitution says "shall not be infringed". So if Federal law says AR-15's are banned but my State says they are legal then we already have a president, it's the States right, sounds like what the Civil War was about.
It is the beginning of anarchy just like the pot laws, hell maybe my State says there banned too but my City says they are not.

If Hillary is above the law then why should I give up the freedom I have known all my life for her Royal Executive Order?

If we don't have to obey the Federal pot law then I don't have to obey any Federal gun law.

You think differently, but I disagree. The Constitution is the law, the 2A is an individual right, just because Scalia was likely murdered and Hillary may stack the scotus changes nothing and I am not the only one who feels this way.

The chain of command is already broken, and if it ever gets violent it won't be me who attacked, but I will defend.

That's not a threat, that's how it is, and there are Millions of people like myself who have had enough of the lies and corruption, we will not attack anyone, but we will defend if we are attacked.

The law has to be applied to everyone equally, it won't work if it's selectively enforced and with the pot laws it already is, so any Executive actions that circumvent the Constitution are invalid even more so now that the president has been established.


As for the police I have talked to they do not want to go to anyone's home to confiscate their guns, just like pot dispensers it will be Federal special officers who do that and my recourse is with my State, that's how it's been while they exploit it for their purpose.

Hillary will divide us even further as she is the queen of lawlessness, she can not rule as a dictator although she will try. The Constitution is the law and I know what it says, it says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, that is the only valid law.

Yes it will be reinterpreted by Hillarys stacked scotus and States will be pressured to abide, but already there are dissidents and Governors, Sheriffs and law enforcement officials who have flat out said those unconstitutional laws will not be enforced.

This is not about the gun, this is about Freedom and the right we have to keep and bear the gun.
I and many others are ready to oppose illegal unconstitutional infringements.
This is not a threat or any declaration of violence as you keep interjecting in your transparent attempt to intimidate and silence me.

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Your comment sounds very much like the ones Trump has made. It's all "threatening" what will occur if Clinton wins this election. You may know some unstable people who may do something Second Amendment like to someone when Clinton wins, but if it happens, it will be dealt with by law enforcement and/or the Secret Service. We live in a country of laws and there is no way around that. Please don't tell me what "Crooked Hillary" has done. It has gotten far too old.
What is this incoherent psychobabble supposed to mean?
Second Amendment like?
These are your thoughts, not mine, again you attempt to tell me what I think, typical tyrant speak.
You use threatening terms and insinuate violent/illegal activity by unstable persons out of your mind, you can not tell me what I think.
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You actually believe Scalia was murdered? Why? Because it fits well in your conspiracy theory? Yes people have chosen to not obey the marijuana laws, and in the past many went to prison for the possession of a couple of joints for 20 years in Texas. You may feel that the 2A gives you an individual right, but for 232 years it was only a state's right. I'm not sure it is even an absolute individual right the way the court decided it eight years ago. It isn't something I've paid much attention to. I know it is only one sentence long and starts out "A well regulated militia, being necessary for a free state..", which no longer applies. If you take it the way the federalists do, by the intent of the authors, there was no standing army when we first became a country and militias were the armies of their day. That is no longer applicable at all. So, though you see an individual right, there are those who don't and there is enough ambiguity to say there is room to dispute that "absolute individual right."
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The Supreme court ruled that the 2A is an individual right and Americans have owner firearms since before we were the United States.

Scalia was found with a pillow over his head and rushed off without an autopsy, in the week before Hillary had said she would be proud to appoint Obama to the Supreme Court.

It is also a GOD given right that we can defend ourselves, it is recognized in courts the world around.

The American people own this land, we are represented by our government, not owned by this small group of people who have abused their authority with epic dishonesty and disregard for their constituents.

There are 300,000,000 guns in American hands, apparently we want them.

We have held them since before we were the United States.

It's not like it's something new to be decided, guns are part of the fabric of America and we will not give them up.

Also there are plenty of gun laws on the books, yet the ridiculous gang murders in Chicago don't use the full force of the existing gun laws, much like fast and furious I believe this is to advance a control agenda.
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@RedCowboy I don't remember Trump ever being ahead in the polls. Maybe in a state or two, but not in overall vote counting polls. I believe there was a poll or two that had him within the margin of error, but never ahead, and that was immediately after the RNC convention. If anyone is likely to blow a fuse at the debates, I doubt it would be Clinton. But, I am doing this mainly because I can't see Trump as our next president. Not unlike many Republicans. Check all the ones who aren't for Trump. I have never before seen Republicans not endorsing their party's candidate. It truly is like the Titanic.
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