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Old 08-11-2016, 12:28 AM #1201
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She ran top secret info through a boot leg server in a bathroom closet to avoid freedom of information request about her pay to play foundation that took donations from places where they stone women to death for getting raped.

If this smug criminal tyrant thinks she can hold her nose up while flaunting the law then outlaw my sporting firearms once elected or limit my freedom of speech I pledge my time, money and life blood to stand against her potential criminal tyranny.

This is not a threat but a pledge to oppose and stand with fellow patriots to protect, uphold and restore our Bill of Rights as the law of the land should it be used as royal a$$ wipe as she promised to do by way of Executive Orders.

Queen Hillary is not above the Constitution and millions of citizens know this to be true just as I do.


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Yes. He said that. But, it's not the worst thing he's said and what's more, not the only unforgivable thing he's said lately.
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I know Hillary will stack the scotus and have previous rulings overturned, then the floodgates will open and new laws and Executive orders will come quickly.

Inflammatory speech will likley become a crime and complaining about government is inflammatory, basically any law that's based on opinion is a blank check that did not in the past hold water as it would not pass the Constitutional test, but it is our Constitution that is being attacked and will be if we let Hillary Clinton stack the scotus and sell our children into bondage.

This is the challenge for todays tyrant, they need to attack free speech in order to accomplish their goals and nearly everyone will defend free speech, even those who won't defend the 2A.

Hillary should not even be allowed to run, this blatant lawlessness of her " intent " BS is the only thing transparent, she signed an agreement not to remove any government document and her 33,000 "yoga" emails were government property while on the clock, she was ordered by Congress to produce those emails which she then destroyed. That in it's self would land you or I in jail.

Hillary Clintons lawlessness will infect our nation if she is elected in my opinion she will not be respected in my opinion and I will not give up my freedom to a Tyrant, I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

Some would choose to live on their knees, to abandon their debt to our forefathers who fought and died for the freedom we have known and loved, I will not, a great many Americans will not.

There will be people singled out and our own forces used against us, such as the IRS attacking the tea party groups, but despite their attempts to do it all in the dark and sweep it under the rug it won't happen as this is already to big, freedom of speech will have to be restricted and the internet will have to be severely restricted.

I expect people are already getting tired of overreach, and next year when health insurance doubles we will be told of how it will go up again and be offered singe payer, we will have public healthcare in Hillarys' first term and control will grow out of that, it will be resented and those who speak out against it will have their mental health assessed as abnormal.

This is happening, we are becoming socialist, Obamacare is a major tool of government control.

Our choice is not Trump or Clinton, our choice is freedom or socialism bondage.
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Nothing Clinton has ever said or done is evidence that she would do anything at all to the first amendment. I'm hoping that the next Supreme Court justice will overturn the Citizens United ruling that gave first amendment rights to corporations, but there are many, many people who are hoping for that as well. I believe she will uphold the constitution, maybe not to your standards as you seem to feel that anything a president does to give relief to injured parties, such as Obama's pardoning federal drug offenders who should have been released years ago if not for the onerous crack cocaine laws. At any rate you are putting the horse before the cart as she hasn't done anything to you or your rights. Complain after she is elected and actually does something a that impinges on your first amendment rights.

I saw my first political ad yesterday. It was a Clinton ad and I never thought I'd see one as this state will most probably go for Clinton anyway. It was just trump saying trump things. Smart ad was my thought.

Yesterday a news source released the Walmart focus group in Ohio they did among women who were of all political persuasions and even the most vocal Republican among them thought that Clinton would be the next president. The outcome of the women's focus group was that they thought Clinton would win by 90% of the women who participated. It was among women, but there were equal numbers of Republican and Democrats with Independents represent also.
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I have no problem pardoning drug addicts, they are the victims, the dealers are criminals who destroy lives for profit.
Are you talking about dealers or users?
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To my knowledge, the greatest number released were people in possession of illegal drugs. The difference is that crack cocaine laws have always been discriminatory as the same amount of the salt carries a far lower prison term. I guess a complaint could be made concerning the amount in their possession, but I believe they would have all been released years ago if not for the discrepancy in the law.
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I'm not talking about small time hustlers, but big weight importers are evil and hurt people, the person addicted should not be charged because they are compelled to seek the drug, the addict should be helped if possible or given maintenance drugs that remove illegal profits from dealers.
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Drug Enforcement Administration Will Not Call for Reclassifying Marijuana - NBC News

"This decision isn't based on danger. This decision is based on whether marijuana, as determined by the FDA, is a safe and effective medicine," he said, "and it's not."

This is honestly getting silly. By the perverted logic being used by the DEA, anything which isn't an FDA approved medicine could be stuck in schedule 1 and arbitrarily banned. The DEA even admits that the classification isn't about danger. It's about the lack of proof backing up the medicinal value of the plant. HELLO? By that logic why isn't nicotine a schedule 1 drug? No medical uses and kills hundreds of thousands per year. I'm convinced that the DEA is simply being paid off by big pharma, and big pharma don't like seeing prescriptions drop by 25% in MMJ states.

Soon we might see over half of all states with legal mj or medical mj. Over 55% of the public supports legal recreational use. What in the HELL is it ever gonna take for the DEA to abandon their FLAT EARTHER approach to regulating this drug>?

Stuff like this makes me realize that those Bundy clan jerks were right. Not for what they were protesting, but their overall point is correct. Our government is broken. The federal alphabet agencies are utterly corrupt, out of control and lack accountability.
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"This decision isn't based on danger. This decision is based on whether marijuana, as determined by the FDA, is a safe and effective medicine," he said, "and it's not."

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Soon we might see over half of all states with legal mj or medical mj. Over 55% of the public supports legal recreational use. What in the HELL is it ever gonna take for the DEA to abandon their FLAT EARTHER approach to regulating this drug>?

Stuff like this makes me realize that those Bundy clan jerks were right. Not for what they were protesting, but their overall point is correct. Our government is broken. The federal alphabet agencies are utterly corrupt, out of control and lack accountability.

Just saw this on Reddit. What bugs me is that they say there's "a lack of proof" regarding medicinal uses but then no one can actually study it because it's Schedule I. Catch 22.

Wonder what'll happen when more states legalize/decriminalize? Isn't there another few states voting on recreational use soon?
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The government should not be telling us what we can put in our bodies at all, we are supposed to be free.

I don't take dope because I know it's ruinous, but any adult should be free to consume anything they want.
Laws should mandate big red warning labeling.

Originally they had trouble outlawing drugs, I forgot the workaround but cocaine and other drugs used to be legal, as long as it's ok for tobacco to kill people then they have no business prohibiting anything else.

FREEDOM, that should not be a party issue.

I understand protecting children, but adults are supposed to be free.
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The government should not be telling us what we can put in our bodies at all, we are supposed to be free.

I don't take dope because I know it's ruinous, but any adult should be free to consume anything they want.
Laws should mandate big red warning labeling.

Originally they had trouble outlawing drugs, I forgot the workaround but cocaine and other drugs used to be legal, as long as it's ok for tobacco to kill people then they have no business prohibiting anything else.

FREEDOM, that should not be a party issue.

I understand protecting children, but adults are supposed to be free.
Totally agree - should be able to partake in whatever vices we want and there should be treatment options available for addictive substances.

Gotta disagree with you on cannabis being "ruinous" though - granted it can be abused and can cause "maņana syndrome" even when not abused. When abused it certainly could be considered ruinous. Potential for abuse is much less than that of Alcohol or some such though - at least in my experience.

Prescription meds are a big problem just now - although it doesn't seem to get much attention - seems a lot of people think it's normal to go home after work and pop a couple pills (Yes I know, some people do need them) and have a glass of wine ... I'll stick to a bottle of beer and a nice fat spliff to unwind. It's not for everyone - to each their own!
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Just saw this on Reddit. What bugs me is that they say there's "a lack of proof" regarding medicinal uses but then no one can actually study it because it's Schedule I. Catch 22.

Wonder what'll happen when more states legalize/decriminalize? Isn't there another few states voting on recreational use soon?
What I don't understand is why isn't there a vote for it altogether? All states vote?
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Dear God! Is it seriously too late for the republicans to get someone else? Trump is either a saboteur, mentally challenged, a real life troll or criminally insane.
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Trump was asked by host Hugh Hewitt about the comments Trump made Wednesday night in Florida, and Hewitt said he understood Trump to mean "that he (Obama) created the vacuum, he lost the peace."

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"No, I meant he's the founder of ISIS," Trump said. "I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton."
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Pulling troops out left a vacuum that allowed ISIS to grow from the remaining extremist, and Obama has funded and equipped groups with terrorist ties, also invading Libya gave ISIS needed equipment, in a way Obama did have a hand in ISIS, maybe a big hand, I hope Trump is not divulging any top secret info or that he won't if pressured about this statement.

Trump may not be wrong but we have to give Obama the benefit of a doubt and call it incompetence, but Obama did not want to bomb ISIS oil claiming environmental concerns, but France bombed it after the terrorist attack in nice.

Trump needs to replace the word "founded" with "is responsible for" as that leaves a benefit of doubt, but Obama has helped Islamic groups who have terrorist ties, god look at the IRAN deal.

It is more than incompetence I am afraid, but Trump needs to be careful unless he has some new info.......
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We left Iraq because the elected government there would not give our contractors blanket immunity from Iraqi justice for the people that they were killing that weren't part of any insurgency or ISIS. In other words, they would be held to account in an Iraqi court of law. We were given an ultimatum: either comply with Iraqi law or get out. It was the Bush administration that held these elections up as democracy in action. Now, you blame Obama for leaving. It does have the ring of truth.

The DEA has been using it's power to target people with cash in their possession while traveling on public transportation services. That's planes, trains, buses and so forth. They have been getting their information from the people who work for these companies in violation to their agreement not to give out this information. The DEA has been rewarding people who identify people who are carrying cash with a percentage of the cash they seize without a warrant and rarely if ever bring charges against the people whose cash they take. One of the biggest proponents of the DEA is Bill Bennett who was Reagan's drug Czar. It has been Republicans like him that have stood in the way of decriminalizing drug possession. Colorado and Washington state both have recreational marijuana use that Obama has told the DEA to stay out of. I don't use it myself, but i have known many people in the past who did and I never heard of anyone being negatively effected beyond what they already had wrong with them in the first place. No one has ever over dosed on any amount of marijuana and that is a documented fact.
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Kasich is an establishment loser. 78% of the people hate washington insiders. Trump is the only true non-establishment candidate, other than Cruz and Fiorina. Personally, I would have rather seen Cruz or Fiorina be our nominee. But, I fully support Donald Trump. Regardless of the polls, I have what it takes to show up on election day and gladly cast my vote for him. There is hardly anything he can do, and certainly nothing he can say, to lose my vote.

Oh, and his comment about what the 2nd Amendment folks could do - he gets bonus points from me for that comment. LOVED IT!

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