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Reported in the New York Times today is a story about a letter signed by fifty of the nation's most senior Republican security officials stating flatly that Donald J. Trump "lacks the character, values and experience" to be president and "would put at risk our country's national security and well being." They further say Trump "would be the most reckless president in American history." John B. Bellinger, who was among the signatories said that none would vote for Trump, some will vote for Clinton and the rest won't vote at all.
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Hillary wanted to hide her foundations activity from freedom of information request so she had a private server in a bathroom of an apartment, something she knew was not supposed to be done for security reasons, as Secretary of State we have a reasonable expectation that she would know basic security protocol and not expose top secret information this way as it was likely compromised.

There is a difference between the perceived potential incompetence of a candidate based on demeanor and the proven incompetence of a candidate based on her actions while in possession of the nations top security clearance, actions that should have been prosecuted but were not by a complicit justice department.

One candidate is accused of possibly being incompetent and the other has already proven she is incompetent if not also criminally negligent.

p.s Don't bother to parrot the she was not charged because of lack of intent, we are talking competency and the FBI Director James Comely already stated his opinion of Hillary Clintons actions, she is not competent and failed to protect top secret information under her control, the fact that it did not result in criminal charges due to her intent does not negate the fact she was incompetent.
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My point is that Republicans think he is unfit to be president. Not a few Republicans, but many. You don't see that among Democrats at all. You claim that Bernie Sanders didn't stand up to Clinton, but it's called party unity. I know you probably forgot what that is considering of whom you are in favor for president.
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We would do well to replace 95% of everyone in Washington, they have failed us and mostly are concerned with their own gravy train, so let them cast their 50 votes for Hillary, if they fear Trump then I like Trump that much more, hopefully Trump will clean house, throw all those rats out.
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It sounds great, but Trump isn't the altruistic person he tries to make himself out to be. I would have loved to have Sanders running instead of Clinton. The only thing worse than Clinton is Trump. It shines in his demeanor. It's there to see ever time he gets into a petty squabble with someone who offends him. He can't stop to think before he opens his mouth. Someone who gets offended as easily as he does wouldn't know the difference between a harmless insult and a real threat. The thought of him with nuclear weapons scares the shit out of me.
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The world is full of liars and spin men who are paid to promote an agenda.

Cenk Uygur of Young Turks sometimes get's something right, but quite often he is just a paid hatchet man, these are professional liars calling other people liars, look at how mad he gets when called out, if he had a leg to stand on he would debate with facts, laugh it off and proudly proclaim his truth, but Cenk likes to be the only one talking so no one else can ruin his spin with facts.

Why people can't sit down and just be honest, both our options suck!

Why not honestly debate who is the lesser of 2 evils....NO, that's not what they do, they hire paid hit men to bash people and there is no fair debate with Cenk Uygue, just him endlessly running his mouth bashing sometimes with hand picked sidekicks.



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That is certainly what I've tried to do. You wouldn't be happy with any Democrat, so don't act like you would ever vote for one. The only reason I didn't vote for Ford was because he pardoned Nixon. Had he not done that, I'd have voted for him in a New York minute. I truly believe that Trump is nuts! I'm not the only one either. People are coming out of the woodwork to tell how crazy he is. Republicans, Democrats, everyone. Just because he will not put a progressive justice on the SCOTUS is no reason to give him the keys to whole world. Clinton isn't my choice by far, but she won't f@ck over the whole world.
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My God, why Hillary, I would vote for Bernie Sanders standing on my head before Hillary, I would vote for just about anyone other than Hillary, she is greedy and dangerous.

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Trump is not nuts. And, you don't believe he is. This is all the Clinton Campaign can come up with to distract and deflect away from Hillary's failings.

Al Gore is truly a delusional nut, it turns out. Trump just says some dumb things on occasion and can't keep off of Twitter. Does that make him nuts? No more so than 70% of the rest of Americans. Joe Biden has said an equal number of dumb things as Trump; and Biden is supposed to be a polished, accomplished politician! It's just that the main stream media gives Biden a pass on all of the stupid things he has said.

At least Trump doesn't lie, and then lie about lying. Only Hillary can repeatedly do that and the press seems to let her get away with it.

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On Paul's repeated endorsement of Gerald Ford. REALLY! You were going to vote for Gerald Ford. I can understand voting for Ford as an alternative to the Communist, Jimmy Carter, but Ford was an idiot. During his presidency, while he was out golfing, North Vietnam conquered South Vietnam; he presided over a stifling recession with staggering inflation, and was a proponent of corporate cronyism. Well, Paul, I suppose that's what floats your boat. Because Clinton promises more recession, more stagnant economy, more regulation and more of the same that Obama has provided. And, Clinton will ensure that the gutted Obama-military stays meek and mild during her reign.

Yes, Hillary Clinton is "Evil" Ford on steroids and crack! I now understand your wholehearted endorsement of her.

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@RedCowboy You would only vote for sanders if the two options were him and Clinton. Put any republican against any of them and he has your vote. For example: Trump.

@Skans Why do even post? You have no more understanding of history than the average 8 year old. Ford didn't lose Vietnam any more than anyone could have won that war. I was of draft age during that war and would have gone if I had not had a college deferment prior to its end. Nixon sent in many thousands more young men to fight and die in what was a small, insignificant country's civil war. The old men from that generation saw communists around every corner and sought to send American boys to fight and die to try to eradicate them. It was terrible and the whole country was against that war long before it ended. Ford had no more to do with its end than you did. Carter wasn't in the presidency at the right time. he was never a communist. I had often wondered what would have happened if Reagan had gotten elected in 1976 and faced the things Carter had. He would have been a one term president and the ridiculous notion among Republicans that the White house is theirs from then on would have evaporated.
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Nixon sent in many thousands more young men to fight and die in what was a small, insignificant country's civil war.
Who started the Vietnam war? Democrat, John F. Kennedy.
Who escalated the Vietnam war? Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson
Who ended the Vietnam war? Republicans.

Skip ahead about 20 years - who got us into the Bosnian War - Bill Clinton. Why? To distract the country from the Lewinski Affair.

Skip ahead another 6 years to the 2001 Islamic war on the United States. Who's fault was this? Bill Clinton. While it may be true that Bush got us into a war with Iraq that possibly could have been avoided, that was Clinton's fault as well. If Clinton focused more on Islamic terrorism during his time, instead of sending troops, guns and money to Islamic factions to fight in Europe, we would never have had the 911 War, and we would never have had any reason to invade Iraq on the heels of the 911 War.
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Actually, if you want to see who started the Vietnamese war, go back to Eisenhower. He sent in American "intelligence officers" to assist the south. JFK only continued what Eisenhower put in place. LBJ did escalate the war as did Nixon. It was the North Vietnamese who ended the war. In case you hadn't realized it, we lost that war. The president who sent the most weapons to an Islamic state by far was Reagan, who sent billions of dollars in arms to Afghanistan to fight the Russians. When we asked for the weapons back after the Russians left, the Afghanis kept them. There was even a movie made about the weapons we sent during the Republican administration and a Republican Congress to Afghanistan. This foolishness went on during the whole of Reagan's years in the White House. Please get your facts straight before embarrassing yourself.


Edit:a new NBC News poll of 11,480 Adults has Clinton up at 51% to Trump's 41%. The margin of error is 1.2%. RealClearPolitics has the average of all the polls with Clinton having a 7% lead.
The fight to end the disciminatory Voter Registration Laws continues as the Texas law as it stood before made people who wanted to vote having to have two types of ID, like a driver's license and a passport. Now one only needs a bill from the utility company with the registered voter's name and address on it. Here in Washington state the registered voters get their ballots mailed to them and they can drop them off at a number of locations or mail it back in. Why can't all states do it this way? The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of voter fraud in the entire country between 2000 and 2014, a period where 1 billion ballots had been cast. As the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals said in its decision, "the correction is worse than the problem ever was."
The Mormon's distaste for Trump has apparently put Utah up for grabs. Seems the same is true in Georgia and North Carolina.
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