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You know the Civil war was fought mainly over States Rights.
The southern cotton growers were selling a lot of cotton to England and buying English made equipment that was better than Northern equipment and cost less.
These successful cotton growers were expanding west and buying seats in government, so the North put a huge tax on cotton exports and passes a law that only northern equipment could be purchased.
Slavery was just a side issue, brother was pitted against brother over the power and control of the elite legislators who saw the South growing and gaining control.
We have been puppets to these greedy elites who are above the law, insider trading is legal for legislators, yes due to public outcry they passed a bill to stop insider trading by politicians, and in a silent vote they voted to either rescind or nullify that law in record time and that was not front and center in the news.
Hillary is a Washington insider who will serve us no better than Trump, we are lied to and cheated as daily business, I read there is an entire lane of the Washington airport just for lobbyist to land and suitcases full of money come in all day long in our pay to play system, Trump could tip over the applecart, even the Republicans are worried .
Hillary is not the savior you think she is, she is an enslaver and our Constitution is all the protection we have, do you somehow think we would be better off without it?


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Actually , the Civil War was fought to protect the Union as the southern states seceded from the the U.S. in response to Lincoln's victory in the 1860 election. States Right's has been the mantra of southern states to initially protect Jim Crow. There has been class distinction in this country long before it was a country. Back in the 1600s the "colonies" were a dumping ground for poor illiterate whites who were never given the chance to become land owners. The popular notion that pilgrims seeking religious freedom is mostly a falsehood to romanticize the colonization of this continent. These were indentured servants who owed many years of labor for their passage here and only a small percent ever got out from under the yoke of servitude. Even though there has been class distinction, discrimination against minorities, especially in the south, kept poor whites feeling better off than blacks, though the economic reality was they were only marginally better as blacks had no rights at all and lynchings were frequent.

How you could think that someone as greedy and reprehensible as Trump would deliver us from the yoke of the rich, with his slogan of "only I know how this works and only I can fix it" is unbelievable. Regardless, it seems that Clinton is far ahead in the polls and nobody is going to change their vote to Trump simply because the Republican base got him the nomination.
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Yeah, that was on the news a couple days ago. They urged kids to throw water balloons at the silly looking float. This is from a town of less than 1000 population. It was sad as many little kids were asking why everyone was being mean to the lady?


Edit: Just read in the New York Times that not only are Republicans fearful of losing the Senate, they are afraid of losing many House seats as well. Seems that many of them have distanced themselves from Trump, seeing him as a loose canon that will bring them all down. A Denver House Representative has already made a TV spot stating he will stand up to Trump if he wins the election. Many others are planning the same thing. As one Republican pollster put it, "we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't" when asked if distancing themselves from Trump may lead to the base not turning out at all.

Fact Check: Trump was reported to have kicked a baby out of a rally in Virginia, but it didn't happen. The woman with the crying baby was leaving before he told her to get out. Maybe a joke? Who knows? But, the woman said she had left because the crying baby was interfering with Trump's speech.
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Seems those who seek power are the ones who probably shouldn't have it, democracy is supposed to work to reduce the abuses, but there are always work arounds, unethical, sneaky, lying.... sounds like what we get when we vote for someone who has lied their back sides off to take power from us as our "representatives".

OK those are the all too common down sides, there has got to be an up side, but the last few presidents sure haven't been in that category, how many duds do we have to go through before we get another good one? Seems we don't have a good choice this time around, even so, I am fairly sure Hillary isn't the best of the two. Others feel the opposite, which would be the better choice? We will never know, only one can be made but I think I know this, the corruption in government which Hillary well represents needs to end.
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

People used to know that the most powerful position could easily corrupt, that's why most sought that a trustworthy person would be elected, honesty and trustworthiness were the most important things.

Older married men were favored because they have sewn their wild oats and are satisfied with being a good husband, father, grandfather, they typically value family and want a good future for their children and the nation.

Also older men have made their fortune and their time left ahead is much less than their time gone by so their conquest is to leave behind a proud legacy of contributions for the good of all rather than stuff their pockets while sewing wild oats.

I think Hillary was told long ago that having a child would make her look more human, and oh what a carbon copy she has, already spinning the hype with an arrogance and air of entitled royalty, that's the feeling I get, and the Clintons are slimier than most when it comes to infidelity, how many of Bills victims has Hillary ruined?

Trump has a family to be proud of, and it's an old saying that before getting married to take a look at the family.

Hillary is about as corrupt as they come and has already said she will use Executive orders to circumvent our legislative branch of government, she's not even President yet and already is talking like the Queen Dictator in Chief.

Someone as blatantly corrupt as Hillary Clinton must not be allowed to abuse this power, for the sake of our future and our childrens future that monster must not be let into such a powerful position, she is not honest or trustworthy and if President could pardon all her cronies as she dismantles the country we have known, and she knows just how to do it too.

I fear a nation divided like before the civil war could arise, America would be weakened as nuclear proliferation spreads throughout the middle east.

We have had nearly 8 years of priming for the next world war, if we should find ourselves enthralled in a civil war this would be a very bad time for it, a lot has changed in the last 8 years, we may not be recognizable as a free country in 4 more or ever again if that motivated and capable tyrant is allowed to dictate our direction.

Lets not forget that Hillary voted for war in Iraq and is a RACIST, HILLARY SAID SHE WAS A GOLDWATER GIRL.
Hillary lies to everyone and serves her own interests.



Hillary wants to disarm citizens and use Executive orders to circumvent the system as well as stacking the court, Hillary is Tyranny and it shows, she's not even elected and already says she will violate her oath.



Hillary wants to raise taxes on most of us.



Hillary want's government control of everything, Hillary is in bed with Monsanto!

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Scary, I have yet to meet someone who will admit to wanting her as president, where are all of these people?
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Paul1598419 wants Hillary, he will come out and spin it, say we can't believe what we see with our eyes or hear with our ears, because spin, spin, spin.

This may be Hillary acting weird, but still it's creepy. -------edit------- after watching this many times it looks to be more than creepy, Hillary may have really had that concussion she claimed right after Benghazi, I thought t was just another lie to buy time, but maybe not.
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Here it is from another angle, note the reporters face, this is not normal.

Maybe this is why no press interview in 9 months?

She still has the debate to make it through, I wonder if they cam pump her full of enough phenobarbital to make it through?

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Sorry I couldn't be here when you wanted me, but had to go grocery shopping. The five videos that RedCowbow put up are mainly out of context. The first one on the Black Lives Matter movement is about things she said back in 1994 when most of the country was arguing for tougher laws against Crack Cocaine. The most vocal of these were Republicans and they were pushing en mass to increase federal penalties for anyone caught with any amount of the substance. Now, there is bipartisan agreement that these laws were discriminatory and Clinton, along with Obama believes this as well. Obama has released by presidential pardon many of these drug offenders years after they would have been released for possessing the same amount of the salt, cocaine hydrochloride. The second video is more of the same on this issue.
The third video is a Fox News pundit giving his interpretation of what Clinton would do as president on gun control. The only thing they show of Clinton saying anything at all is a few seconds from a speech where she claims the gun manufacturers are not held liable for their products, but the clip is so short that it's impossible to see what the rest of her argument was. This is Fox News doing what they do best. Taking a short one sentence out of a complete statement to try to make the person speaking to have an opinion that they don't.
The fourth is my favorite, as it takes a clip out of a Clinton speech, held 8/1/16 in Omaha, NE with Warren Buffett where she seems to be saying she is going to raise taxes on the middle class. From the reaction of the crowd it is more likely she said "aren't" instead of "are" and it didn't make it onto the tape. Maybe she misspoke. It also left out what she said just prior to the statement used. "We're going to use Warren Buffett and his ideas about how we're going to tax the wealthy more as the real foundation of making the investments in America that will help everybody. I'm told that Donald Trump stays glued to the TV set so I hope he heard Warren. You know there's always time for a conversion. Because while Warren is standing up for a fairer tax code, Trump wants to cut taxes on the super rich. Well we're not going there my friends."

BTW, everyone who voted for the Iraq war did so on the false information from the Bush Administration. And Goldwater was a Republican presidential nominee from the 1964 election that was a landslide for LBJ. Still, that election was 52 years ago. Anyone may change their views in 52 years, if she really was indeed for Goldwater.


The great thing about this country is everyone gets to vote. If Clinton's ideas are so far out of the main stream, why is she leading so far in the polls? And why are Trump's campaign people trying so hard to get the wealthy to put money into his campaign? It's like the Republicans are aboard the Titanic and are all abandoning ship.
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Trump was ahead in the polls what? 10 days ago....so he had a bad week and fell behind, but now Trump is closing the gap again.

92 days left and you can't call this yet, short circuit Clinton still has to make it through the debate without blowing a fuse, and there is still no guarantee.

It's time for a real change, the Bush/Clinton dynasty needs to end.

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@RedCowboy I don't remember Trump ever being ahead in the polls. Maybe in a state or two, but not in overall vote counting polls. I believe there was a poll or two that had him within the margin of error, but never ahead, and that was immediately after the RNC convention. If anyone is likely to blow a fuse at the debates, I doubt it would be Clinton. But, I am doing this mainly because I can't see Trump as our next president. Not unlike many Republicans. Check all the ones who aren't for Trump. I have never before seen Republicans not endorsing their party's candidate. It truly is like the Titanic.
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Donald Trump Overtakes Hillary Clinton in New Polls - Us Weekly

Trump can win after the debates.

Anything can happen in the next 90 days and short circuit Hillary has new trouble plus a lot of old trouble that are going to come back up.

You can't call it yet, nothing about this election is normal, and again Polls reflect peoples sentiments, but not what their actions will be, many democrats may choose not to vote.

I just don't see Hillary getting elected.
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Well, what do you know? He was ahead by a little on this one poll if you margin in the 3.5% error. You were right and i was wrong. Keep that exuberance up as the next 95 days go by.
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