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Old 07-30-2016, 03:36 AM #1073
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The first one and the last one are the same ones. These are just one guy ranting about voter fraud. No proof of anything at all. And even the one in the middle is talking about the possible voting a handful of people who may have gone to the polls after someone else mailed an absentee ballot for them. It is ridiculous to think that there are many people standing in line at a polling station multiple times to try to effect an election. Your vote is probably not going to matter and the crime carries a five year prison sentence and a $10,000.00 fine. These laws were shown to be discriminatory against blacks and other minorities.


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I fixed the last one, Listen I don't know that fraud is widespread, but I do know that I don't want it to be, electronic cross checking of registration is useless without id as fake names can be used, it should at least be a fair vote and super delegates are wrong, many people votes there are not counting for anything. Lets fix that too shall we.
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Your YouTube videos are the worst kind of crap. The first one is a talking head making spurious accusations with no evidence for nearly 15 minutes and the last one is more of the same. The middle one is a local news report from somewhere, USA about one woman who might be charged with voter fraud and she is going to fight it. Voter registration is still in every state to keep "fake" names from voting, so that isn't even a real issue. Talking about the Democratic primary process is not a real issue as you don't vote in that party. Why do you care what the primaries do in a party you don't vote in? Just to stir things up? The fact of the matter is that republicans have tried to discriminate against minorities in states with Republican legislatures. If that doesn't make you angry, it sure makes me angry and I am grateful that the courts have ALL seen fit to strike them down.


IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE VIDEO I POSTED, PLEASE DO. IT IS FILLED WITH PROOF OF WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.


Edit: The federal courts have struck down restrictive laws in Kansas as well as North Carolina and Wisconsin today. That is three states so far today alone, not counting what was done yesterday in Texas.
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I care because if Trump doesn't win I would rather have Bernie Sanders, and that woman was charged with voter fraud because she kept talking about how everyone was voting 2 and 3 times and said that even she did, I remember watching her on the news after Obama was elected, she was a polling place worker.

It's not actually my main concern right now, but super delegates are wrong, I would rather have Bernie Sanders as a backup, Clinton is just a horrible chronic liar, she's untrustworthy, unreliable, and dangerous, she should not be trusted with any more top secret information.
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Bernie Sanders is more of a liberal than Clinton is and since you hate "tax and spend" liberals it makes no sense that you would concern yourself with a the democratic primaries. If you believe that voter fraud kept McCain or Romney from becoming president, you don't watch polling statistics well enough to understand the neither election was close. The fact is that these states that have denied minorities their right to vote have been doing so for so long they are on notice from the federal courts not to try to do so again. You can pass state wide laws to disenfranchise minority voters, but there comes a day of righteous equity. That day came and is here to stay until those states can prove that they will never try to pass these kinds of laws again.
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Bernie Sanders is more of a liberal than Clinton is and since you hate "tax and spend" liberals it makes no sense that you would concern yourself with a the democratic primaries. If you believe that voter fraud kept McCain or Romney from becoming president, you don't watch polling statistics well enough to understand the neither election was close. The fact is that these states that have denied minorities their right to vote have been doing so for so long they are on notice from the federal courts not to try to do so again. You can pass state wide laws to disenfranchise minority voters, but there comes a day of righteous equity. That day came and is here to stay until those states can prove that they will never try to pass these kinds of laws again.
How the hell are you going to tell me what I think?

I would rather have Bernie than Clinton because he would not allow lawsuits against firearms manufactures, all the tax and spend is going to happen anyway, our debt will grow until the bubble pops, NO MATTER WHAT, so don't tell me what I think. I would rather have Bernie than Hillary.

What a bunch of HOT AIR, seriously how hard is it to produce 1 of 7 forms of ID, who runs around without ID, some States require that you can provide police with ID if asked.

It's a small thing to do in order to vote, I don't know for a fact what the odds of fraud are or what BS study says what, fraud has happened I know that and people have been charged I know that, it's not all that bla de bla BS BS BS racism, BUZZWORD seriously TOTAL BS.


It's a free state issued ID, that is not unreasonable when I need an FBI background check to carry my pistol, a constitutional right.

NO ID NEEDED TO VOTE.....and you claim an end to the darkness of racism in voting....are you stoned?

Seriously am I crazy or is getting a free state id too much to ask?

Yes I watched the video you posted, that was an entertainment show, not real news and I don't think getting a free ID is too much to ask, not when some precincts had OVER 100% voter turnout during the Obama election.

I know getting an ID has changed as far as proof of who you are, just to renew my drivers license I need more proof than ever, it used to be simple, however identity theft has become a problem, not that long ago it was simple to get an ID, so don't act like it's been some crazy burden forever, recently you need additional proof , but that is a recent change.

Hillary is still the status quo and we need change, in Clintons many years of service she has proved that she is careless and not trustworthy, the FBI director flat out said so, Clinton is too dangerous and just more of the same corruption, it really is time for a change, let the Bush/Clinton dynasty die, people are sick of it.
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The problem that these states put in front of minorities is not that they don't have ID. It's the type of ID that they are willing to accept. This is what the courts have found to be discriminatory. It never occurred to me to attack the way Republicans nominate their candidates, but I suppose I could. It would be a distraction, but if that is what I am trying to accomplish, a distraction would be preferable to watching the numbers of people who actually talk about the stupid things Trump says on a daily basis. I wouldn't be complaining for the reasons some voters have complained in the Democratic party as there are always people in both parties who feel betrayed when "their" candidate doesn't win. Knowing that my candidate has a poor chance of winning and wanting the candidate in the other party to be more to my liking than the one who is running is a kind of wishing for a consolation prize. Hilarious.
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I tell you what's hilarious, pumping in cheering sound to drown out people chanting Bernie, Bernie.

People are sick of the status quo corrupt government and the Clinton show was so empty and contrived, especially in light of all we know the filthy liar has done. She's a career politician with a poor record.

PEOPLE WANT THE BUSH/CLINTON DYNASTY TO END!
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What a joke this government is. Not in touch with the people. Bunch of imbeciles.

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@RedCowboy. Like the "Never Trump" people being drowned out at the Republican convention? As badly as you think Clinton is hated it is not as bad as Trump's hated numbers. Since 1992 Democrats have gotten the same 240 electoral votes every election cycle. That includes the Bush years that were a Republican administration, no matter how much you want to characterize it as part of a Clinton dynasty. Every source I've been able to find, including Republican ones, state that Trump must carry the three big states with the most electoral votes: Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania. It's a near impossible hurdle to overcome. Pennsylvania hasn't voted for a Republican for president since 1992. That's 24 years. There are other bleak statistics that I won't go into here, but with people from the left and the right lashing out at Trump's disrespectful ABC News interview about the Muslim man and wife whose son, a captain in the Army, was killed in the line of duty for the United States and spoke at the Democratic convention being demonized by saying the woman was not talking because her husband wouldn't allow it, that he ( Trump ) had made sacrifices, and so forth. When asked by the interviewer what sacrifices he had made, Trump said he had employed thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of people, then asked how is that a sacrifice, it gets laughable, if it weren't so demeaning. It really doesn't matter what you say, the odds are that Trump will not be the next president. I'm not counting chickens, just stating the way things are at this point in time. Some Trump nut may kill Clinton before the election or some other improbable thing may happen and change things drastically, but it is unlikely. Hillary Clinton never was part of a dynasty, especially one with Bush. She was first lady back during the 1990s. She has been vilified by Republicans since she became part of Obama's administration as he has too. But, in the end, it won't matter because Trump is the wildest card in this deck. And, without a doubt, the most hated. So lets see how the next few months play out.

Interesting fact i came across today. The population of Texas is only 45% white. That includes children and everyone. The other 55% are minorities. Even you should be able to see where this is going.
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People both democrat and republican do not want a Washington insider, that's why Trump and Bernie got so much support, Clinton is a filthy, filthy, filthy Washington insider and enough people both democratic and republican know it. All that whatever you said, it's already forgotten.
This will come down to the weeks before the vote more than anything, what someone said about bla de bla LOL it means little to nothing.

You can not say with 100% certainty who will win at this point, what are the Vegas odds?
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Yeah we've heard it all before. I need to revise some of my earlier statistics. It has been since 1988 that Pennsylvania vote Republican for president. And North Carolina seems to be up for grabs as they have a large population of blacks and educated whites, two of which that have been shown to particularly hate Trump. While the PAC that is supporting Trump is planning on TV spots in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, the PAC supporting Clinton is showing TV spots in those and and half dozen more states. Can't say what the Las Vegas odds are, but I'd take even money if i could.

Edit: Source, the New York Times. That's the right leaning newspaper.
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*Yawn*, well you now when they predict something it always happens.....no?

It's time for a Change, no more Clinton/Bush dynasty.

People don't want a Washington insider, most are sick of the status quo and rightfully so.
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If only 25% of this video is true, why not have another scoundrel as president? Seems that's what America wants now but this does not bode well for our future:

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Fortunately, that old video is filled with outright lies, half truths and total misrepresentations. It was totally discredited years ago. Not even 5% is true and that part is spun out of context. it was presented by white nationalists who couldn't believe the country had a black president. But, it happen again in 2012. Unfortunately for Obama in 2009, this was the least of his worries as the previous administration had run the economy into the ground and we were facing the next Great Depression. However, Bush had already bailed out the Wall Street banks at 100 cents on the dollar and ignored main street to their own devices. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

BTW, nobody can ban a video as we are watching it yet again, so that untruth should tell you something about it.


Edit: Today in the New York Times there is an article that may help explain the reason for all the federal courts taking action now to strike down discriminatory laws against black voters, especially in the south. I had forgotten about the 2013 SCOTUS 5 to 4 decision in Shelby County v Holder that held the Voters Rights Act of 1965 unconstitutional because the 5 right wing justices said that the discrimination it was trying to address was no longer a problem. The article presented many laws enacted by local governments to try to disenfranchise black voters. One such story was about the election in Sparta, GA where the police systematically served subpoenas to 180 black registered voters, 20% of all registered voters, a month before the mayoral election to come to court and prove they were still eligible to vote, though they had not committed any crime. 53 did and were immediately given back their right to vote, but the rest had not in time for the election, which was narrowly won by the white mayor. This is just one story in the efforts of white Republican local Election committees to try to remove black registered voters from their voter logs.
I, for one, am looking forward to a new left leaning justice on the SCOTUS to strike down such nonsensical rulings that have been proven to discriminate against black and other minority voters.
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Hillary Clinton wants to be our Dictator in chief.

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