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He is woefully under qualified, and has a lousy business track record. He is extremely polarizing as well.

He knows that were he to be elected he would get nothing done. He also knows that his stance is too extreme, just as Palin was too far off.

The reason he is running is to take away votes from any other republican contender. Should by some miracle he actually become the republican front runner, he also definitely does not have enough mainstream support. What he does do, is effectively sideline the republican party, so his good friend the Clintons are back in the white house.
I mostly agree with you. I'm not in favor of trump but at times his boldness is refreshing. Although I don't disparage your view I see it as a long shot that he decided to run in an attempt to redirect some would be republican votes over to voting for Hillary.
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There is no decent Democrat running for office. Hillary is a crook and an evil demon. Bernie Sanders would be halfway acceptable if he didn't want to raise minimum wage. Do I feel people should be able to live on their minimum wage... yes. Raising minimum wage is not the issue or the resolution. That just "muddies the waters" and there is no middle class if we do that. The reason that we can't live off minimum wage is because the cost of housing (be that apartments or homes) and the cost of vehicles and insurance is too high. There is just too much disparity between historical earnings vs cost of living. We need to work on lowering the cost of building homes and apartments and regulating how much can be charged to the "consumer". Feel free to research average wage and average car costs in 1970. Do the same with homes. When you see the disparity you will shart a brick. This is the only resolution that doesn't destroy the economy. We don't need to give out loans that people can't afford and create another housing bubble. We just need to re-think how we build homes and figure out how to do it cheaper. We don't need to lose any of the profit margins for the companies. We don't want to outsource the jobs. There has to be a way to do it. It might mean that the conventional method gets thrown out the window. That's fine, change needs to happen. If minimum wage goes up to 15.00 my years and years of experience will essentially mean very little. My company isn't going to raise my pay just because minimum wage was raised. Do I feel entitled to more money that a McDonald's worker? Absolutely I do. Do I feel that a 5 dollar an hour difference is worth it if they are making 15.00. Nope. Will that matter? Nope. We need to fix the real problem. If someone making "Minimum wage" can buy the "Minimum Apartment" (being an economy sized apartment) something is wrong with the price of the apartment. It isn't the other way around. I want to be very clear. I am not saying we shouldn't help people. I don't really believe in throwing money at problems.

On the other side we have the republicans. Not all are terrible. But most are. I will very likely vote Trump. The main reason is I don't think he'll take alot of crap and he already has a ton of money. I don't feel like he will be bought out by special interest groups. I may very well be wrong. I don't feel that being wrong here would be any different than any of the other candidates though. I feel that risk is very very much better or at worst case equal. I don't think he can do a worse job than either of the last 4 presidents. Maybe he can do worse. I really don't know the future. It'll surely make for some good TV though (cause that's what we should be basing our vote on). Another thing that I really like is the fact he gives no Fs about being PC. This new PC movement really bothers me. The fact people get so wrapped up in their "feelings" and being "offended" really doesn't sit well with me. I swear these kids now days have now concept of "Sticks and Stones". The "safe space" thing really gets me. I really want to slap them and tell them to put their big boy/girl pants on. This world CANNOT survive on weak people. I'm not advocating being mean, I am not advocating any sort of hatefulness. I don't in ANY way think it is right. Dwelling on your emotions and feelings and focusing on that will cause you to be depressed and or pre-occupied. You have a mission in life, focus on that mission or goal. Not whether something offended you.

Bush... I could not possibly bring myself to even remotely consider that. Tin foil hat or not, SOMETHING is going on there in that family and group of friends/associates.

Paul: I'd possibly vote for if he could win. But nothing really says "he's a winner".

I wish I felt like it mattered who I vote for. I'll vote. But I really feel like it's rigged.
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Wow I just listened to Donald Trump, he was on Infowars for a half an hour, I have more respect for him now that he is willing to go on the air with Alex Jones I think I trust him a little more. He sure sounded like he is committed to winning. I will listen to the rebroadcast again later.

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I just cannot take Trump seriously. He is extremely vague in all his "solutions". Yes, he is a man of success, but he certainly is not a man of value.
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@ Everyone.

As I have told all of you before I have been living here in the belly of the beast or cesspool if you prefer for over thirty years. I suspect some of you have seen the Clinton Chronicles. For those who haven't, you should see it:



They virtually took over everything in Arkansas and pretty much replicated the experience here. The damage from travlegate to some innocent, hard working people was awfully.

People may think me crazy but after listening to Putin for years, along with Medvedev and Lavrov, I would like them to take some time off and fix things here. Putin is more conservative than anyone running for office in the Republican party. All of these guys are true statesman in the true sense of the word.

Putin's talks at Valdai are prescient, sharp, insightful, and dead on target. He never gets upset, even now with the killing of one of his pilots while he looks a bit pained, he remains unshakable.

I was absolutely amazed that when Clinton had the audacity to use the name Hitler and Putin in the same sentence, that idiot in the State Department, Bonesman/Bohemian Grovesman John Kerry called what transpired in Crimea a "land grab," and on top of that, the US government placed sanctions on individuals in the Russian government, Putin continued to refer to his "Western Partners."

While I have to say I get a real kick out of Trump because I despise political correctness and he is from where I was born, I could not endorse him either because he simply does not have the maturity, poise, and circumspect nature that a President has to have.

The fact of the matter is that in my lifetime we have not had any true statesman. We have positions and amateurs. If you have never heard Lavrov discuss foreign affairs, you should. He is a real statesman.

By the way, I make no bones about what I am about to say. Clinton is not only a Clinton but she is also a woman. I don't think a woman should be President, period, just as I don't think they should be in the Military and doing a host of other jobs. There are some jobs that should be done by men, period. Men and women have different modes of thinking and dealing with their emotions. I could get into a whole other subject concerning women and women's lib but that is not the focus of this discussion.

While generally speaking I do not think women should be President, I am thinking of a write in for this individual because I suppose having had a relationship with her for over thirty years and knowing that she is far more capable than anyone in either party, she could do the job. She is also well versed in intelligence matters.

Unfortunately, I don't know how to embed Facebook, so to read about her bona fides you will have to simply sign into Facebook and lookup Bogie B. Bogarté, "About" then "Details About You" to read her story. The picture albums are informative as well.
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Sanders. He is by far the most consistent, and actually bothers to vote himself.

Of course it will turn into another Clinton Vs Bush election, and Clinton is going to win.

Here's another question... who's the biggest wingnut of them all? I elect Carson for that. Even trump can't trump him in the absurd statements department.
oh yeah Carson is just nuts and he's a neural surgeon. He should loose his license imo. He thinks weed is a gateway drug. RX painkillers are the leading gateway drug.

Also I swear he looks like he's on xanax during the debates.
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I am not so sure giving our power away to any one individual is a good thing anymore, not with how corrupt Washington DC has become and continues to be more and more.
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I agree, I think the Supreme Court should be elected, not appointed, and maybe the cabinet as well, they have too much power to just be appointed.

If Trump gets the nomination who would be his Vice President? I can imagine someone like Jesse Ventura or Ted Nugent.

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What a mess!

In my opinion, I don't plan on voting for anyone. I don't follow the polls and just really hear about them on the news when I drive my car around. Where all the good old days where we have presidents who actually made a difference, and all this nonsense of terrorist, blaming people and their families, doing shady tactics to try and get ahead didn't exist.

Ugh....

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There might not be any more presidents that we can trust.

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You guys are a trip.
I gave up a long time ago.
I used to think term limits might help.
Then I started spending time with some congressional staffers and I learned the secret not many people know.
Why don't things get done?
The country is being run by 24 year olds with less than three years experience.
Do you really think the elected officials do there own research?
Not only that, check the attendance rate of your own elected congressman.
It takes time to learn to do the job for a junior congressman or senator.
Despite that, the lack of term limits leaves us wide open to $$$ ed influence...read lobbyists who like ticks get their claws in and remain.
Though there is an inertia and grid lock...we have an endless array of regulatory law of which all of us will run afoul at some time or another.

As for the Executive Branch...Executive Orders or legislation by Executive fiat has gotten out of hand. I think it unconstitutional but I guess they have stood up over time.

Get rid of the Fed and regressive lending....bad business.

Change laws to force the market back to its roots.
People invested in SOMETHING, not weather or not on option like the DOW going down 100 points in two days, to wit derivatives. The market lottery is one of the worst problems.

The financial sector is disproportionately larger than it need be and allows predatory financial activity.

Legislate against citizen stupidity.

Require a much greater knowledge in civics and history to all US citizens.

Teach Kindergarten kids how to fire and M16 (Just kidding.)
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Depressing to think mankind isn't fit to rule itself....
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Depressing to think mankind isn't fit to rule itself....
There unfortunately are too many problem's in today's world. Instead of working on resolving them, we are creating more!

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