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Old 07-20-2016, 01:07 AM #913
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Save what, we are 20 Trillion in debt?
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If I had my pick I would rather see Hillary than Trump in office. I may not even vote this election, none of these candidates appeal to me.

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What is funny is the number of Republicans who have deliberately stayed away from this convention. There are so very many of them. Trump will never be president. As much as I dislike Clinton, she is by far the better choice in this race. If Republicans can't get behind Trump, what chances do you think he has?
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What is funny is the number of Republicans who have deliberately stayed away from this convention. There are so very many of them. Trump will never be president. As much as I dislike Clinton, she is by far the better choice in this race. If Republicans can't get behind Trump, what chances do you think he has?
That's what sucks about all this. It's not even a legitimate election in a sense. We're likely to just get Clinton by default because the Republican party put up an un-electable candidate. Democracy fails when there's no viable alternative. How we personally feel about Trump here isn't even relevant. I highly doubt that he has a chance because he's so unfavorable among women and all minorities. We'll be seeing like >90% of blacks and hispanics voting Hillary. Probably upwards of 70% of women will vote Hillary. The only people who seem to support Trump are white males, and that's no way to win an election.
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Trump has had strong support, if he carries the States that Romney did plus 3 of the large Obama States he can cross 270 to win.

I know California is a democratic State even if Satan was the democrat, but Hillary may not get the votes that Romney did, Bernie supporters will not all go with Hillary.

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That's what sucks about all this. It's not even a legitimate election in a sense. We're likely to just get Clinton by default because the Republican party put up an un-electable candidate. Democracy fails when there's no viable alternative. How we personally feel about Trump here isn't even relevant. I highly doubt that he has a chance because he's so unfavorable among women and all minorities. We'll be seeing like >90% of blacks and hispanics voting Hillary. Probably upwards of 70% of women will vote Hillary. The only people who seem to support Trump are white males, and that's no way to win an election.
I hear you, but this has been a long time coming. The Republican party has been getting more and more exclusive over the years and they have no one but themselves to blame. When you go farther right every year and make policy that many people disagree with, you lose everything but your base.
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I think Trump appeals to a lot of people just like Bernie did, people who are tired of the Clinton Bush Dynasty. And you say it yourself, the conservative base is not happy, that means others will be attracted, and of the base simply fails to vote or just can't trust Hillary.
Trump is not your typical Republican.
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He not your typical presidential candidate at all. He the most unpopular presidential candidate in history. The convention is more about talking down Clinton than telling about why they support Trump. This is going to shape these Republican's future for years to come. When Trump doesn't win the presidency, those republicans that were decidedly in his corner may be vilified and could see their careers crumble. It is a theory that has been floating around since this convention stared. Another thing that Trump may do for this country is lose the senate to the Democrats. Mitch McConnell just talked about the problem of keeping the senate Republican.
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It's official now, Donald J. Trump is now the nominee.

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Edit: I just noticed that my post in this thread is post #911, just coincidence I am sure.
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I can see why you might think that if you just watched the convention, but I'm not at all that pessimistic. Wait a little longer and see what will happen after the Democratic convention. We were just treated to several hours of Clinton bashing and there is more to be said here.
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It's just frustrating how this country is being run. I still have hope for America, and love this country but we better get going soon!

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Clinton bashing? She's a criminal monster and a tyrant in a pantsuit.
Clinton has a long history of shady activity, that's not bashing those are facts.
Next you will say pointing out her history is wrong because it's picking on a woman, how laughable, her campaign will be Trump bashing because her accomplishments are nil.

Trump is not a dug in politician with palms to grease for a lifetime of favors. Trump has a chance to tell the special interest NO and do what's good for America rather than what's good for indebted supporters pockets.
Trump is not the status quo.
Trump is not bound by politically correct.
Trump does not lie about what he just said, he stands by it even if it's unpopular and low and behold people end up saying he was right all along.

The system has been broken for a very long time, the Clinton Bush Dynasty is a broken record of a song people don't want to hear again.

Is Trump perfect, NO, but his supporters don't include street rabble who when asked by a reported don't even know what they are protesting.

Trump is more of an Independent than a Republican at heart and I think people want that, I know people don't want to see America become another Europe only with less freedom and an eternity of debt.

If we get Hillary and her supreme court appointees I would say she will ruin the Democratic party's image for years and years to come, actually if we get Hillary we may not have a democracy in 4 more years, more of a modified dictatorship.
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*Cough* The conservative judges, and politicians are the ones that mostly pushed for the war on drugs, and have been dismantling the fourth amendment since. Why would having more republican appointed judges to the supreme court be worse than clinton?
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Because they would likely reinterpret the Constitution giving government more control over every aspect of our lives through Obamacare and other " helpful " programs that would decide what's good for us and how we must live, because it will mean less freedom and more control.

Drugs ruin lives, but we need to punish dealers not the addicted as they are the victims.
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You mean like interpreting that it's ok to break your door down, for some cops, if they think a dealer went in there, without a warrant? That's an interpretation from conservative judges, and republicans. The liberal judges are actually the ones that tend to side with little things like right to choose, gay marriage, and generally aside from guns, tend to create greater protection for people.

A conservative republican judge, or two, as likely to be appointed by trump, would likely undo much in the way of protections that have been created in the last several decades. They would also probably make cops, and feds even more untouchable, and immune to consequences, than they are now.
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This is correct. I expect the next rule of law to fall would be Miranda warning. The fourth amendment has already been dismantled by Republicans in the name of law and order by no knock warrantless searches and in traffic stops. The court has always swung like a pendulum in the past and it is high time it swung in the other direction.

If you think that last night was a Trump lovefest and not a three hour long Clinton bash, you can't see the forest for the trees. You call last night telling facts, but there are far more people who see it otherwise. Trump is the most disliked presidential candidate in modern history. Trump is not a selfless hero to the down trodden. He is a wealthy individual who has filed bankruptcy when it suited his needs to not pay people who he contracted to work for him and to keep as much money for himself by being very litigious. His appointees will give us more of the same like citizens united and allowing corporations like Monsanto patent life, thereby being able to put a strangle hold on crops and forcing everyone to pay them to grow our food.
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hi, Im for Donald Trump just tired of all the old baggage in DC . He's a business man and he would run the country like a business, to make us money and job not giving them to some other country. We need something different for a long time and thats my opinion ..Remember many congressmen and senators were lasers at on time and lawyers lie . It must be true look at my rep power put a 1 in front= 1776

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