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Old 07-17-2016, 04:45 AM #881
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I truly believe you are dead wrong, so are you voting against Trump for what Bush did and not the current problems?

You would rather have Syrians pouring in that not vote democrat?


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I am concerned as ever in the many elections i have voted in. I don't take my vote lightly at all, and i wouldn't accuse you of doing so either. I'm certain you are voting your conscience as much as I am. Can't you give me the same respect? Not just the president, but every single person I vote for is agonized over until I feel that I have done the best I can for my country and state and city. It is the right of every American to vote their conscience. I don't believe that we will be inundated with terrorists coming into our country. All of the terrorist acts that have occurred have been perpetrated by American citizens who have become radicalized, not by people who have just immigrated here.
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Ok, I believe that you believe that you are making what you think is the right choice.
We don't all think the same so what seems obvious to me may not seem that way to you.
It would be nice if none of us had to labor, if we could be provided for by self sufficient nations with robotic labor to do most of our work, people to do planning and maintenance for accolades and praise alone, if we could spend our days exploring our artistic and creative and enjoying our finite lifespans.

Inventive advancements would by paid in recognition. But the bad apples who refuse to evolve despite our most patient and diligent teachings would have to be culled or caged, prevented from breeding as not to sully the genepool and retard our evolution, and there we lack the will for what some believe are the right reasons, what works the best for the most in the long run is right in nature, otherwise it dies out, but we prop up the non productive out of empathy and that can only be done to a point, too much dead weight in the wagon and not enough horses.

But for there to be winners there still must be losers, for our money to have a higher value we either must possess technical superiority or our money must be the world default currency.

After the gold standard was lost we had the petro dollar, war was necessary to keep us the winners and living comfortably, otherwise we must become self sufficient and accept a lesser quality of life, fat would be cut from management by angry masses.

The Federal Reserve is said to be private, I call BS, I think that's a lie, wealthy bankers exist but any company that gets too big such as ATnT met with government interference, forced divesture and forced competition, ATnT was forced to sell long distance to resellers for less than they sold it to the public.

The local bells such as southern bell were all regulated utilities after divesture.

It's all about government control and the real rich people in DC, we would have gone to war with Iraq no matter who the president was.

We are facing war or economic collapse again and the fat cats in DC are not going to give up their gravy, so I bet we go to war again, even if it's all manufactured.

Sure existing extremist groups can be manipulated and problems created to be solved.

Again it falls back to the Hegelian Dialect, but as a safeguard the people need to be well controlled and kept in the dark.

Greed is the downfall of man, there is no easy answer, maybe when we live long enough we will pass on lessons learned after the reset, we must all be willing to give something up and see to it that others do as well, it goes against instinct as self preservation is an evolutionary trait of survival.

Our teachings of the young must change to teach the advancement of all mankind as the goal, and self sacrifice as a brave and noble deeds, again those who will exploit for greed must be taught otherwise or culled.

Maybe the Islamic extremist will win, maybe their method will prove most effective, it will if we lack the willingness to prevent it.

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I honestly don't feel confident in either presidential candidate and cannot honestly decide who the vote should go to.

They both have severe negative factors and few positive factors. I only would lean toward trump for his tax plan to bring home more money.. but our economy would suffer from his radicalism.

Hillary is a proven idiot when it comes to classified material...

What the hell are we gonna do?!?!?!
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Man if there was ever a time for a new party to rise I am thinking now would be the best opportunity to get some serious traction. I have to think there has never before been as high of a percentage of voters that will be voting for the candidate they hate the least. Given a third option maybe likely many would take it.

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I'm not a fan of socialism, but if not for the super delegates I think Bernie may have won.

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They both have severe negative factors and few positive factors. I only would lean toward trump for his tax plan to bring home more money.. but our economy would suffer from his radicalism.

Hillary is a proven idiot when it comes to classified material...

What the hell are we gonna do?!?!?!
In my opinion logic dictates that we must choose the lesser of 2 evils, and that's Trump.

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This is a thought I expressed in the Turkey coup thread, but I think it applies here too, we have had a long running Ponzi scheme called the Federal Reserve and with our enormous debt we face eventual collapse or a reason to lay claim to vast natural recourses, not that we cant supply our own needs, we could, but we must control the worlds needs to an extent to make our economic value higher, if the middle east was to become too dangerous to be left unoccupied then Haliburton and the military industrial fascist superpower would need to run things and basically own it, China and renewable energy are a future obstacle, so the clock is running, desperate measures may be afoot.

Iran is my big concern, they will spread it to all the Islamic States.......that sure would give us a good reason to go back in, you know we just put up a big surveillance satellite with all the latest super sensitive sensors.

Maybe we want Iran to spread it around so we can occupy the oil fields and keep them this time, how could we leave them alone after something like that.

Think about it, 150 Billion and a contract that they can have it legit in 10 years, either Barry has sabotaged us of given Iran the rope to hang itself along with the entire Muslim sandbox, Americans won't be crying about the children of Iraq after LA gets nuked.

Dangerous game you say, well our political elites have some very nice super bunkers, besides the 1st one will get set off in Israel, then we can take it all with nano bots, mini drones, maybe even some engineered biologicals, the Muslim population is too large, we need a reason to clean them out like cockroaches with poison and after Israel then ......God please not Atlanta go boom the public will be onboard.

911 was tiny, watch what happens next but before the big booms we will have our hearts hardened with lots of domestic events, it's just a game to the super elite, big government and big money will dance hand in hand on our graves while we argue over which puppet to elect.

150 Billion and permission to have it outright in 10 years, is the whole world blind?

The NROL-37 Spy satellite is classified, but it is admittedly for recon. It is not the first like it, another was sent up 2 years ago and another 4 years ago. NROL-65 and NROL-15 TOP SECRET RECON SATELLITE
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Police shooting in Baton Rouge LA today, 7-17-16 Multiple officers shot.
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France is on the verge of 'civil war', the country's head of intelligence says | Daily Mail Online

France is on the verge of a 'civil war' which could be sparked by the mass ***ual assault of women by migrants similar to the one seen in Cologne on New Year's Eve, the country's head of intelligence has said.

He believes the situation is so tense and fragile that another major Islamist terror attack or mass migrant ***ual assault could lead to a huge right-wing backlash.

Patrick Calvar, chief of the Directorate General of Internal Security, told members of the French parliamentary commission: 'We are on the brink of civil war'.

According to French newspaper Le Figaro, he said: 'This confrontation I think it will take place.

'Even one or two attacks and it will happen. It therefore behooves us to anticipate and block all these groups.'

Yesterday a leaked report revealed a staggering 1,200 women were ***ually abused in German cities during the New Year's Eve celebrations.

The police document said detectives believe 2,000 men were involved across various cities but that the bulk of the crimes were committed in Cologne and Hamburg, where 600 and 400 ***ual assaults on women were reported respectively.
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Stuff is getting pretty crazy lately. These incidents seem to be feeding on each other like a positive feedback system. I feel like it won't be long until we're back to having race riots and such at the current rate. We BADLY need another MLK type who can UNITE the people, rather than turning them against one another.
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I guess most of you weren't around in 1968 when we had major assassinations of political and and civil rights figures and it seemed to everyone that the end of the world was at hand. It was a terrible time much worse than now and the doom and gloom soothsayers were proven wrong in the end. We were in a far less popular war that was killing thousands of kids and there were riots in the streets. I was not a kid during those events and remember them well. my point is that we cannot see the future and to believe the predictions of people who have no more idea what will happen than anyone else is to give into mass hysteria.
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Yes Paul, this is the time for POTUS to bring calm and reassurance to the people rather than push political agendas with hype of doom and gloom, I agree.
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I'm happy to be agreed with instead of vilified on this thread. You are correct and from what I've seen, Obama has done just that. He stated after the shootings in Dallas that the black individual who killed the police officers was no more a part of Black Lives Matter than the white man who killed black people in a church in SC was an example of white people in general.
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I go one further and say that those 2 criminals you mentioned don't represent the 10's of millions of American gun owners either.
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We BADLY need another MLK type who can UNITE the people, rather than turning them against one another.
I hope one will emerge, but I doubt it with the likes of Sharpton and Jackson having been the only "leaders" that can be pointed to in the past two decades. Those two are absolute, self serving, race baiting scum.
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