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Racism is a problem in america.
Policing is a problem in america.
Corrupt government is a problem in america.

And there are MANY other problems, that are all at least somewhat related.

I don't think anyone here is going to dispute any of that.

The problem with BLM though, is that while many people actually agree, and support the movement in spirit, understand and are very sympathetic to their cause, how it came about, and why...

They are completely turned off by both the behavior of BLM members, and how that message comes across as a demand for special treatment, rather than equal treatment.

BLM seems to channel the problems strictly to an issue of race to the exclusion of anything else, and frankly fails to recognize some harsh realities as well. Such as the fact that people other that whites can, and are often very racist.

In the same vein, I have trouble with any feminism, or "equality" movement, that specifically ostracizes anyone.

@Moving to another country... to be frank no country really wants people who can't contribute to their society. Some make immigration a lot harder, and some, no so much, if you have marketable skills, education, money, or something else you can contribute with.

Should ever have the chance to actually ever retire (doesn't seem likely) I personally would not stay in the US, but move to either latin america or southeast asia. Tons, and TONS of expats now live in areas of Mexico (rivera playa), DR, and lots of european expats in asia. Why? The cost of living. Comparing relative lifestyle, to have the same in North Jersey, and Chiang Mai... you can live with great comfort for 30-40k a year, and to achieve the same here would probably take at least 5 times as much.


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Yeah. She's probably in for a culture shock if she ever makes the jump and moves down there expecting much English speaking or American influence.

Lots of people experience resort communities in Mexico and decide to move to Latin American countries only to be shocked when not everybody in the area speaks or knows English like they do around resorts.

That said, learning Spanish is well worth the money anybody will save living there.
I think you might have misunderstood me. She took two years of Spanish in school, so though she may not be fluent, she can speak well enough to get by. She is in the process of selling her house and is talking about buying another to rent out as properties here have gone way up in price, including rent. I will miss her terribly as I was a single parent since she was 2 years old. I'm still hoping it won't actually happen.
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I think you might have misunderstood me. She took two years of Spanish in school, so though she may not be fluent, she can speak well enough to get by. She is in the process of selling her house and is talking about buying another to rent out as properties here have gone way up in price, including rent. I will miss her terribly as I was a single parent since she was 2 years old. I'm still hoping it won't actually happen.
Wow, so she's pretty serious about making the jump. Working down in a place like that can be a difficult transition, but going down with money makes it way easier. You could go retire down there though!

As for the Spanish, I'm biased. Grew up in a still somewhat bilingual Hispanic family, took four years of it in school, and spent a few years of my childhood living in a country that spoke it. Don't speak it enough though, so every time I go to a Spanish speaking country:

Takes me a few days before I can start understanding the accent (unless it's one I'm used to), but I can hardly speak it if anybody randomly comes up to me.
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Yeah, she wants me to go too. I've never lived outside this country and I get by pretty well for an older guy. I'm afraid I'd hate it down there, so I'll be right here next to Puget Sound. She wants me to update my passport just in case, though.
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I think to compare death statistics of this country of over 300 million people trivializes the huge number of gun deaths, which by these numbers are equal to the number of traffic deaths. These don't touch everyone equally either. It seems like more minorities are the victims of a disproportionate number of them. And, if police killing black men isn't an issue for this election, I don't know what else would qualify. For them it is more of the same old treatment they have been subjected to for centuries.

My 32 year old daughter has been planning to move to Uruguay for awhile now, According to her, it is filled with expat Americans and the cost of living is very reasonable. I'm not sure if she will leave, but it is something to look into if that is something you are interested in.
It was ironic hearing Hillary talk about how white people need to listen to black people, Hillary is the poster child for white privilege, she is the rich elite white who is blatantly above the law, and after she called black youths super predators, how could anyone believe that two faced liar, the only thing transparent about her is how quickly she flip-flops, she is 100% untrustworthy.

She called young blacks super predators and advocated life in prison for 3 offences, she did not say we should listen to them but we should bring them to heel and talk about their problems after they are locked up forever, what a 2 faced liar.

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First of all you are putting words into her mouth as she never mentioned black kids at all. The Right wing moderator of this crap video even said that and then he stretches the truth to say "she meant black kids". Also, this was from 22 years ago. There were a lot of mostly Republicans at that time pushing for more law and order and she wasn't talking about any particular set of people except that they were predators. There were a lot of gangs coming out back then. They were of many different ethnicities. If you want to blame someone you should blame the Republicans that were pushing this the hardest at that time. At least get the facts straight, as this isn't even close to what she said at that time, 22 years ago. This was taken from a Trump campaign video and I believe everyone who has had a chance to hear him and his tweets know that any kind of crap is probably going to come out of him. There are a large number of Republicans who are distancing themselves from him.
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No Young Turks are liberal as hell, usually I don't like what they say, but this is like anything else with Hillary, she speaks to the crowd who's listening, even her accent changes depending on where she is.

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I don't know what the Trump campaign was thinking by putting this out there. As if all the minorities he has marginalized would suddenly vote for him because Hillary Clinton said this as First Lady in the start of her second year in this role. The FBI agent who was in control of the investigation of the email thing was a Bush appointee and he said that no one would ever bring charges against someone in office with no evidence of wanting to do wrong or to hand over secret materials over to anyone who didn't have a clearance. With all the crap that there was against George W, one might have thought that someone would have been prosecuted, but no. And the Supreme Court had ruled that he couldn't opt out of the Vienna Conventions. All that torture became instantly illegal and people like Donald Rumsfeld wasn't prosecuted or Dick Cheney either. The reasons for going to war with Saddam were proven not to have ever existed and the only reason that he didn't tell anyone that he no longer had weapons of mass destruction was because he had spent ten years at war with Iran and he didn't want them to find out. Now, the Iraqis are saying that things were better off when Saddam was in power as there are thousands of Saddams now. And ISIS is alive and well in Iraq as well as Syria and all over the Middle East, a direct result of the war with Iraq.
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Clinton knowingly set up her email system to route 100 percent of her emails to and through her unsecured server (including keeping copies stored on the server). She knowingly removed such documents and materials from authorized locations (her authorized devices and secure government networks) to an unauthorized location (her server).

When Clinton would draft an email based on classified information, she was drafting that email on an authorized Blackberry, iPad or computer. But when she hit “send,” that email was knowingly routed to her unsecured server — an unauthorized location, this is illegal, she did not have to intend to do damage, simply moving classified government information to an unauthorized location is a crime.

For any of us peasants ignorance of the law is no defense, but again Hillary is above the rules, she is white privilege and she is a LIAR.

I don't read stuff on any Trump campaign site, I search out information on my own, and the more I look into what has been going on, the more I am sick or our big government and all the money grubbing lies, I really think we need to STOP with the Clinton/BUSH dynasty and put in anyone else.

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This "Shell Game" video is pretty funny. This Scott Bennett character was an ad exec in California whose whistle blowing consisted of alerting the State that he was being charged 10% for unpaid child support and was not being informed in advance of it. This continues to this day. He has conflated himself with people like Edward Snowden, whom he never met, and Brad Birkenfeld who worked for the Swiss bank UBS and sought to gain from a new law at that time that would give people who helped the IRS acquire uncollected taxes up to 30% of the collected taxes. He tried to get immunity from prosecution, but was denied and was sentenced to 40 months in federal prison. He later was awarded $104 million for helping the IRS get $780 million from the UBS.
Scott Bennett sought work with the defense department when the economy tanked in 2007-2008 and was hired by Booz, Allen and given a military commission. His job was to identify duplicate government agencies and to make recommendations how to eliminate waste. Turns out that he was charged and convicted and served 2 years in federal prison. He is now hawking a book with the help of Fox News. He claims to have gotten much of his information from Birkenfeld, who was never privy to this kind of information. There is probably nobody with more of an ax to grind than this guy. His arguments are filled with innuendo and unsubstantiated accusations. But, he has a book to sell and it seems he will say most anything toward that end.
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I only have 2.5 years left if I want to retire from the military. Due to moving, I will no longer be actively participating until I find another unit. If that b*tch enters the office, I won't bother trying to find another unit. I will not serve under some lying traitor. She needs to go to hell sooner rather than later.
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It is a dark era for America, now AmeriKa, this is not the same country it was when I was young, far worse in many ways as our elected officials clearly stand together above us, as they pass laws which diminish our freedoms and increase their information gathering. Laws which make corporations have more control with the ability to give more money to them. Sold out, clearly, we have been sold out but with the Federal Reserve, I guess that started a long time ago.
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The problem with congress is that people hate the senators and representatives from other states, but like their own for the most part. That makes sense as they wouldn't keep being elected if it weren't for a majority of voters voting for them. I guess if you want to change that body, you need to start with your own state.
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Of course Hillary should not be president. She is an old, socialist carpetbagger who has enriched her family through a corrupt foundation and funding from Saudi Arabia. She would never be granted a security clearance if she wasn't Clinton. Comey made it very clear that she should be facing felony charges if she wasn't a Clinton

What matters is that she may be elected because her supporters are corrupt and there are millions and millions of them. The lone figure of the person who is the president is less important than the society that put them there. Mexico is a shit hole because its society is shit. They tolerate and even desire corruption for the immediate benefit and the consequences be damned. The fine points of what she said years ago are not going to make a significant difference. People have already decided. You want a president because of her gender and the free stuff the state gives you. You resent the heritage of this country or you're told to vote for her because of your race. But, you are embarrassed to admit your real motivation and so you point to her experience, her track record as say...Secretary of State. Shame on you.

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"She is an old, socialist carpetbagger who has enriched her family through a corrupt foundation and funding from Saudi Arabia. She would never be granted a security clearance if she wasn't Clinton. Comey made it very clear that she should be facing felony charges if she wasn't a Clinton"

Take out that word, and everything else fits perfectly for an unapologetic capitalist.
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Take out that word, and everything else fits perfectly for an unapologetic capitalist.
I can't because that would then be inaccurate.

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And remember,"It takes a Village" ?

No ,she is a socialist at heart. Of course, she is willing to take corrupt money and is greedy as hell. This is true of many socialists because remember, the rules were meant for others. Al Gore's jet fuel consumption is a cute example.
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