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So, when will the tipping point occur? Thirty years of political correctness and bourgeois concerns about a candidate's hair or her ankles... who will be in the Super Bowel? If I hear about another candle lighting or flag planting or singing around a campfire I'm going to puke. Fox News is the worst. Paul Ryan "we will be having a moment of silence"

Paul? F**K YOU!

If our incompetent government will not act in a reasonable manner they need to stop promoting this.

These barbarians will not stand down. They will not loose interest and go away. They will not run out of bullets, bombs or knives (poisons, nukes or biological weapons for that matter). They need to be STOPPED just like the Crusaders were begged by the Byzantine Pope to save Christians nearly 1000 years ago. These people are not insane. They are not alone and they are not extremists. They are Zealots. In ten (9-10 debated) nations around the world homo***uality is punishable by DEATH.

Nazism was a religion as well. Hitler was seen as a Messiah.

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So, when will the tipping point occur? Thirty years of political correctness and bourgeois concerns about a candidate's hair or her ankles... who will be in the Super Bowel? If I hear about another candle lighting or flag planting or singing around a campfire I'm going to puke. Fox News is the worst. Paul Ryan "we will be having a moment of silence"

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If our incompetent government will not act in a reasonable manner they need to stop promoting this.

These barbarians will not stand down. They will not loose interest and go away. They will not run out of bullets, bombs or knives (poisons, nukes or biological weapons for that matter). They need to be STOPPED just like the Crusaders were begged by the Byzantine Pope to save Christians nearly 1000 years ago. These people are not insane. They are not alone and they are not extremists. They are Zealots. In ten (9-10 debated) nations around the world homo***uality is punishable by DEATH.

Nazism was a religion as well. Hitler was seen as a Messiah.

Oh. and by the way... Brexit. Vote leave.
Sadly we're getting to the point where something has gotta give soon. We've now had 3 major post-911 terror attacks on US soil. The Boston bombing, San Bernadino and now the Orlando massacre. The people of this country aren't gonna idly sit by and accept their yearly Islamic terror attacks. Islamic extremism seems to be getting worse by the year. I just barely read about ISIS roasting women alive in Iron cages for refusing to be s3x slaves. Who the HELL even thinks of doing things like that in this day and age? I'd think it was some kind of Satanic cult if I didn't know what ISIS was.

What really pisses me off are the people blaming this on the guns. No, it's not the guns. It's the Islamic terrorists and the other homegrown lunatics. Ban guns and they'll just make a bomb out of common ingredients and maybe kill more people.
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Forgot to comment earlier, but I just wanted to encourage everybody to check out Gary Johnson and Jill Stein, the most popular third party candidates. Considering the top two candidates right now don't look so great, they're worth some serious consideration.

Every past election, there's been a candidate I clearly liked more than the other, but not this time.
I don't know who I could vote for between Hillary and Trump since I'd really hate to vote for the "lesser of two evils," so I might vote for Gary Johnson (was a pretty good governor of NM).

As for the shooting, I'm really not sure that there's much politicians can do about attacks like this that society would be okay with. I think these sorts of issues come down more to community involvement for prevention. That said, politically taking care of the violence in the Middle East would probably help a little bit with Islamic extremism.
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This might feel good, but it will be effectively a wasted vote. The two major candidates will not be affected by these third party candidates and the decision as to who wins will not be influenced by support for these less popular choices.

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You are undoubtedly right about the importance of community involvement, but there is the rub. It is our politicians and our politics that impact a community's freedom to protect itself. Political correctness and political backlash for "see something, say something" has inhibited our communities from doing more.

Consider this. Remember the gay couple that sued the baker who refused to bake a wedding cake for their wedding? What would have happened in the courts, media and possibility to the couple themselves if the baker had been a Muslim? This insane, two sets of rules and the balkanization of society, will not end well.

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This might feel good, but it will be effectively a wasted vote. The two major candidates will not be affected by these third party candidates and the decision as to who wins will not be influenced by support for these less popular choices.
I'm well aware it'd essentially be a wasted vote, but it'd at least feel less personally repulsive and maybe help to convince the media they need to cover third party candidates more.

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You are undoubtedly right about the importance of community involvement, but there is the rub. It is our politicians and our politics that impact a community's freedom to protect itself. Political correctness and political backlash for "see something, say something" has inhibited our communities from doing more.

Consider this. Remember the gay couple that sued the baker who refused to bake a wedding cake for their wedding? What would have happened in the courts, media and possibility to the couple themselves if the baker had been a Muslim? This insane, two sets of rules and the balkanization of society, will not end well.

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Agreed. I just feel like a lot of the people that ask for political action ask for more restriction which probably won't do anything. Better to create community initiatives than ban everything remotely dangerous.
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I asked the reader to consider the scenario of the Muslim baker. This was not a rhetorical question, what do you think would have happened? Furthermore, if it had happened would you have learned about it? I doubt it.

Also, step back and consider the Muslim problem on a longer time scale and from a greater height. Are there any hopeful signs that point to this getting better? As Europe and America become increasingly populated by these cultures, are we likely to see improvements in environmental policy, education, healthcare and the arts? Are the STEM programs going to flourish? Will technology improve? There will undoubtedly be more violence and less social trust. No religious freedoms will be safe INCLUDING the freedom to not believe in a deity.

This is not threatening weather and all we have to do is hang on through the storm and soon it will be sunny again. If a caliphate is created in the Western World it would unquestionably threaten Russia and then possibly, even China. The darkness could descend for 10,000 years...or more.


Islam is an existential threat to civilization. These are not "lone wolves" or radicalized extremists and they are not insane. They function (even if poorly) within our societies. They are zealots. They are following the teachings of their profit as it is written in the Quran. There has been no reformation and what pressure is there yet for one to occur? The world wide population of Muslims is 1.6 billion and growing. If the majority opposed the aggressive promotion of Islam then where are they? Either, they too, are so intimidated that they might as well not exist or they quietly support this aggression and it isn't PC to say so.
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I would never, ever, ever vote for Hillary. She is a crook; a chronic liar, a scapegoater, a rapist enabler. She has whored out her position as Secretary of State charging millions of dollars to foreign companies and foreign dignitaries per speech and so has her husband, Bill. They have made millions of dollars selling her influence. She was directly responsible for a man going to prison because of a video he made promoting an anti-Islam movie. She used this man as a scapegoat to hide her ineptitude in fighting off a terrorist attack against an American embassy in Lybia. She stole this man's freedom to save her own ass. Hillary deleted tens of thousands of emails from her personal server to hide all of her corrupt activities. Hillary wants to use government to control the US citizens and very likely would ban guns, laser pointers, knives, anything that she sees as a threat to her tyrannical government.

Then there's Trump. Not my first pick, but he would make an excellent president. His biggest problem is that he has diarrhea of the mouth. He has a New York mouth and attitude that is tough to stomach. But, he has built businesses. He has had numerous successes in negotiating difficult deals. He is tough. The Clintons have tried and tried, but can't find any dirt on Trump. In fact, the Russians have hacked into the Democratic National Committee's files which collect all dirt they can possibly find on Trump, and there's nothing. Nothing that the Russian hackers could find! See Washington Post article. Sure, Trump has had failures, but that's what makes him real - the fact that he acknowledges his failures, accepts them, but also learns from them.

Yes, I'll be voting for Trump. I actually think he will make an excellent president.

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Default Re: LPF's Presidential Candidate Vote USA

Philly... the metropolis pretty much no one ever wants to go back to for a second visit. I'm not surprised.

There's a bit of extra stupidity in that city... similar thing happened in nyc, with a ban on larger soda bottle sizes... that ended up doing nothing except costing taxpayers a few million for lawyer fees.
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Will we get a fair ballot count?

That's what I want to know.
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Default Re: LPF's Presidential Candidate Vote USA

Probably not no. It's one of the main arguments against creating a way for people to vote online.

How many more people nowdays would actually vote, if they didn't have to take time off, and actually go somewhere to do it?

On the other hand, taxes are done online with few issues.
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