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You don't mind a guy who takes over failing businesses, does cosmetic remodeling, restructuring which consists of downsizing to the point of making things unsustainable, then waits a year, declares bankruptcy, and sells the pieces off after, at a profit? Then does it over and over again, using bankruptcy and ruined lives from people that worked there as leverage to build capital.

Don't kid yourself, both of them are horrible corrupt people.


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At least he does it by working, she does it by taking bribes.
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Hillary wouldn't be sooo bad if she wasn't anti-gun to the extreme. If she gets elected and fills the scotus with liberals our 2nd amendment is getting gutted one way or another. Honestly our two likely choices just suck.

Megalomaniac billionaire businessman who can't make a single speech without putting his foot in his mouth Vs corrupt career politician who wants to gut one of our most important rights.

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The problem was a long time coming and will take a long time to fix, if it can be fixed. Those diodes you like were probably technologies that were stolen or negotiated away by the holders of that technology in order to be allowed access to the cheep labor within China. Not long after that the Chinese industrial system supported by the Chinese government used that technology to compete against the original developers. This process is well known and rampant throughout the manufacturing world.

Have you ever tried to ship something to China? If you order on E bay, you have undoubtedly ordered FROM China and when the shipping is not so inexpensive that it is included for "free" then e-packet is often very, very inexpensive. I have shipped items that originated in China back for repairs (which is in itself an unusual activity) and the $4.50 shipping cost balloons to $30.00 for the return. The ships that brought it here have to go back, so why the hysteresis? I am certain it is part of the Chinese government's scheme to encourage exports.

We can wish all we want, but the choices will be Trump or Clinton. Vote for the lesser of two evils and then move on. This isn't the end, it's just the beginning. If Trump is elected then leverage that anti-establishment success to promote and work for better replacements for the House and Senate. They have his precedent of refusing to pander to the media and surviving, even advancing by snubbing the PC Nazis.
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Have you ever tried to ship something to China? If you order on E bay, you have undoubtedly ordered FROM China and when the shipping is not so inexpensive that it is included for "free" then e-packet is often very, very inexpensive. I have shipped items that originated in China back for repairs (which is in itself an unusual activity) and the $4.50 shipping cost balloons to $30.00 for the return. The ships that brought it here have to go back, so why the hysteresis? I am certain it is part of the Chinese government's scheme to encourage exports.
Sadly the reason is from the trade agreements the USA has with China. Our very own corupt gvt screws over U.S. sellers by subsidizing Chinese sellers shipping costs through the USPS! China also subsidizes Chinese sellers shipping over there so they can dominate the market with the lowest prices here in America. This makes it impossible for our sellers here in the United States to beat or even match Chinese prices on places like ebay. This really pisses me off to no end and I try to buy from US sellers on Ebay as much as possible even if it means paying more.

This election stinks. Either a disgusting billionaire buffoon or a career liar corrupt politician in the pockets of big corporations. Thats our choice unless Bernie Sanders gets to be in the final race. Which I doubt will happen but it would be way better than those other two.
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bernie sanders! its not free stuff, it's putting taxes where you need them, and i'd rather have 10000 lazy bums live off my taxes than let a single child go starving on the streets
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Exactly. I wish more people felt this way there would be a lot less suffering in the world. The thing is the money from our tax dollars is there, its just spent terribly mostly on the black budget of the Pentagons defense programs. The right tends to get everyone out for blood by telling people the problem is immigration, or welfare but the money is there. Our defense budget is estimated to be close to the combined total of every other nations military budget combined. That's insane! I am all for a strong military but the amount of money spent on programs and technologies that will never even see the battle field is out of control.
Its an easy way to get people behind your candidates. Nobody likes paying taxes especially in America where we get so little benefits for the amount we pay compared to other nations. I am self employed so about 44% of my income gets taxed. The majority of it to the Federal gov. But I would happily pay these taxes opposed to resentfully if I felt the money was going to better places.
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I appreciate your concern, but there are a lot of problems here. Firstly, I understand that you are exaggerating, but you can't support 10,000 lazy bums. Now, you may be far wealthier than you appear, but your sentiment does not necessarily lead to your desired result. In fact , your willingness is unusual and few others will be willing to forgo all the benefit of their labor and risks for others. Furthermore, your willingness may attract more and more dependents to you until you simply cannot support them all.

A more serious problem is the use of the State and the threat of force to compel people who do not want their wealth to be used according to the dictates of the majority. This is socialism and socialism is theft. It is wrong and it is immoral even when it is rationalized as a means of doing good.

Much of Sander's appeal is that his opponent is corrupt and incompetent.

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But, it won't. Governments are generally corrupt and serve the interests of the insiders, bankers and the most aggressive politicians like the Bushes and the Clintons. People like these are everywhere in the world and they do not rise to the top by being honest, kind and heroic.

Charity is good, but it has to be voluntary or it is theft. Being realistic rather than lamenting what would be wonderful only if...is a better start if you want to improve the world.
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Hillary Clinton is not acceptable, America has been arming the dam terrorist, that's what Benghazi was about, Hillary belongs in prison for treason, not the White House.

Cruise is a puppet, Trump at least offers us a chance, Hilary would ride us down fattening her own pocket, Trump at least says " I changed my mind " Not that he never said something the world just heard like Hillary does, how can she just lie as if we have zero memory?

Trump says flat out, Yes I paid to play, I bought and sold these scumbags.

That honesty in it's self puts Trump miles ahead.
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Cruise is a puppet, Trump at least offers us a chance, Hilary would ride us down fattening her own pocket, Trump at least says " I changed my mind " Not that he never said something the world just heard like Hillary does, how can she just lie as if we have zero memory?

Trump says flat out, Yes I paid to play, I bought and sold these scumbags.

That honesty in it's self puts Trump miles ahead.
Cruz dropped out today, meaning that, unless something crazy happens, Trump will get the 1237 that he needs.

I can't believe Kasich is still running. He's now 4th place in a 2 man race.
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Cruz dropped out today, meaning that, unless something crazy happens, Trump will get the 1237 that he needs.

I can't believe Kasich is still running. He's now 4th place in a 2 man race.
He's also behind the ghost of rubio in number of delegates.

Why is he even wasting time and money yet?
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Cruz dropped out today, meaning that, unless something crazy happens, Trump will get the 1237 that he needs.

I can't believe Kasich is still running. He's now 4th place in a 2 man race.
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He's also behind the ghost of rubio in number of delegates.

Why is he even wasting time and money yet?
He's either part of the stop Trump movement or he is running for Vice President.

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As long as Trump doesn't threaten to dismantle the CIA or take the money system away from the "Federal" Reserve, he might be our next president. I know a lot of people hate the idea, but I hate the idea of the status quo and would like to see if he might be the real deal and make a difference.
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Don't kid yourself, both of them are horrible corrupt people.
I'm not kidding myself and I disagree strongly. Hillery is a horrible, corrupt person. A lot of people don't like Trump, but there is no consensus that he is a horrible, corrupt person.

Personally, I think he will make an excellent president.

Oh, and Kasich is dropping out.
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