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Yeah, unarming the populace, and then taking them away in box cars was a real problem in Germany. I don't see the box cars with jews in them this time, perhaps with muslims?

I guess we should make sure the muslims are armed to help prevent what happened to the jews.

Taking guns away is a bad sign. America should not be disarmed...even if we say one group is dangerous, the way germany said the jews were. That's why they (Nazi's) wanted to take the jews guns, because they convinced everyone the jews were dangerous.

The other germans were allowed to have guns of course...if considered reliable to the state. They did not USE those guns to defend the jews of course, because, the Nazi gov had convinced them the jews were the enemy.




Iran has third party inspections, and facilities are filled with concrete to prevent re-use, etc...so not sure what the self inspection thing is about other than they also get to look?

Iran is enriching uranium!
That is a fact, they are enriching.....supposedly not beyond a small useless amount.....then why the heck are they doing it? Plus they are allowed to build nukes in 10 years with impunity as part of this deal. 10 years goes by fast, Barry has been in office for 7 years.

Iran is being allowed to do their own inspections, Barry can sugar coat it but I have watched Barry lie and lie and lie so I don't care what he says is filled with concrete, our heads would have to be full of concrete to trust Barry.
Besides what he says, Iran is enriching uranium and that is not denied!


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The funding issue comes amid new revelations that Iran could be permitted to conduct its own inspections of the Parchin military complex, one of the country’s most disputed nuclear sites.

“Thanks to the Associated Press story, the public now knows that Iran, one of the worst nuclear proliferators in history, will be allowed to inspect itself at the Parchin military facility,” said a senior Republican congressional source. “While the Obama administration had initially refused to publicly confirm or deny Iran’s self-inspection at Parchin, now it’s doubling down and embracing this charade of nuclear verification, and holding open the possibility that the American taxpayer will help pay for the charade,” the source said.

Iran also has revealed in recent weeks that the United States is banned from knowing the details of its nuclear inspections agreement with the IAEA, a disclosure that prompted anger among many U.S. lawmakers.

Iran has gained additional leverage over the IAEA by refusing to sign a document known as the Additional Protocol, which is meant to force Iran to disclose certain details of its nuclear program to the IAEA in order to confirm that Tehran is not operating a clandestine weapons program.

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As far as global warming I have seen studies leaning both ways, the earth goes through a natural warming cooling cycle, I know it's freezing a$$ cold outside right now, we are not having a warm winter, we don't get snow down here every year but it snowed yesterday and it is COLD!

I am against pollution, and we have polluted, but global warming be it man made or man added to is not our biggest problem, yet our government will exploit anything and use it as a power grab, that is my main issue, not so much weather or not we have messed with the weather, but weather we will get the wool pulled over our eyes with global warming as an excuse.


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You are correct here. Global warming...er climate change is a weapon used by the progressives/liberals/socialists to manipulate behavior to benefit the proponents. Look at who becomes enriched and who pays. Don't forget to include the man-bear-pig in his Gulfstream. Look at how all the western world's effort will be overwhelmed by Chinese and Indian non-compliance until after 2030. Look at the Greenland ice core data. It undermines the necessity of human influence to cause repeated, profound and rapid climate changes.

Regarding Iran, I think this is spooky. There seams no reason why an honest, even an incompetent or naive, administration would push this deal. It stinks. The upside eludes me and the downside is huge. This tempts me to put on my tinfoil hat and suggest that this is a Valerie Jarrett production. I think the Muslim Brotherhood's influence over this administration is significant. Electing Hillery will be,according to her own statements, be like a third Obama term. That's just super! I think it would be more like electing someone who has sold American access to enrich her personal Foundation. Why else set up the private servers. I know, I know, I've heard what she's said, but what do you really think?

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I think Hillary lost 6 BILLION dollars from her state dept., I have seen middle eastern men chanting Allah Akbar before blowing up Russian tanks with high tech shoulder fired weapons on youtube.
I think we were arming the enemy through a third party going around the embassy, WE DID, and I really want to see who Hillary's running mate is going to be, because Barry will protect her until she is elected because they are both complicit in this treason. " My opinion"

I watch the videos with the Muslim music at the beginning and end as they drive around in our MRAP trucks and wear our armor and night vison and attack people or explode a roadside bomb.

If I told you in 2014 about all the terrorist attacks that would happen in 2015 in France and around the world, even in America, and that we would empower Iran with 150 billion dollars and allow them to enrich uranium while doing their own inspections would you have believed me?
That and while arming the terrorist we would try to disarm the citizens. You would have thought I was crazy.

I think we have been set upon a path so much more treacherous than most can imagine.

I know Barry has standing executive orders to take full control of all infrastructure from grocery store deliveries and electricity production, to road access and assembly of manpower.

Could you imagine a national disaster, mini warehouse wmd that got smuggled in perhaps from Iran/ N. Korea, and then a war erupting later this year?

Look at all the freeze dried food being sold on tv, and how about those gas prices, it seems to me pressure is being applied and a very dangerous regime has be enabled. 150billion dollars and a free hand to self inspect, yes I am worried, rationalize and ignore if you want but this is no small deal and you just know plans are being laid even if they never come to fruition.

Maybe it's no big deal, maybe we can trust the voting machines.

I'm waiting to see Hillary's running mate, because she will double cross Barry and he is keeping her out of prison right now, this new highly classified email of Clintons that's been discovered could be Barry exerting some more leverage on her. I know he protected her from the FBI at that last trial, a lot was withheld via executive privilege me thinks.

I really don't think he is motivated as a normal president, I think he could have more plans in store, he may be highly motivated by a very strong driving force....but maybe it will all be ok, will 2016 be a boring year or not?

I hope it's boring, I fear it may not be, only time will tell.
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Whether you're right or wrong the way to be ready is about the same. The fact that you are willing to talk about this is good. The more people that consider these paths the less likely the result will be bad. A cynical public, inquiring minds and open, frank conversations are poison to tyranny. Think about the alternative life style shows that have become popular on cable. Many are fake, but Gold Rush, Moonshiners and the various arctic homesteaders are very interesting to people. What options do we really have if the system breaks down? Disruption can lead to opportunity as well as problems. I'm optimistic.

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I'm hearing rumor Barry has his eye on the U.N., using it to take more control.
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It's called the small arms treaty, no one in history ever signed it until Kerry did last year.
It has not been ratified, still it has never been done in American history, we don't let the UN order our soldiers around or tell our citizens how they can live, but the fact that Kerry is willing to allow it is a first in our history.
More and more crap is getting thrown at the wall to see what sticks and it is a violation of his oath of office to do this, this goes against our Constitution which Kerry swore to uphold and protect, yet he want's to put Americans under foreign control.

And nobody has done anything about it, if there is no accountability then they just keep trying.
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The Secretary of State can sign a Treaty, but that does not make it law. This is why Donald needs to begin the process of dismantling this oligarchy. We need to help.
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It's very clear our freedoms are already gone, just a matter of catch up to take away all doubt, at some point. The overreaching control Nazi's have already decided to take away the weapons, just haven't started doing so yet.
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Some Americans are not going to let our rights be taken away, some of us are going to plan ahead and fight until we take back what is rightfully ours or die trying.
A man can build a shotgun from 2 lengths of gas pipe and a screw, they can not take away our knowledge or our free will.
It's a shame so many people are so far withdrawn from the history of tyranny and it's lessons that they choose to live with their head in the sand, but that leaves their posterior exposed, and they will be no safer in the end.
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That's what is taking so much time to get the job done, they have to do it in a way that won't literally get people up in arms fighting over it.
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There are a lot of variables in our future, but coincidence is rare, there is a reason for what they are doing, lack of common sense is not it, incompetence is not his failing, yet some people can listen to a liar lie right in front of them and come up with....well they all lie.

Heads in the sand, ignoring a problem will not fix it, those who refuse to make the hard choices will have them made for them, and when they don't like the decisions it will be way too late to start speaking up, that ship will have sailed.


It's going to end up with everyone being in violation of the law, we will all be guilty of many things just trying to work and live.
Then they can pull aside anyone they want, because we are all guilty, and we will have no rights, we wont dare ask for rights, because we are guilty and don't want to draw any attention, and that is the plan, everyone shut up and pay what you are told, live like a rat hiding from the vultures, scurry around in the shadows with your head down and don't dare make any noise. Bow to your masters and don't make eye contact while you work in the government factory, don't ask for anything and be glad you get what they give, it's more than you deserve.
Those afraid to speak up now will lose their voices all together, and if only a few speak up thy will be crucified, but if we can all speak up together, we will realize we have the power.
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I agree, there are so many laws on the books now, if anyone wanted to look long enough there would be something we are in violation of, but I don't think that really matters, individuals are arrested every day with charges that have nothing to do with reality, any charge can be brought against any person without much problem for those doing the wrongful arrests, you can be harassed and held against your will for no real reason other than someone in the government wanted to do so. You can also be picked up and jailed as a terrorist and flown away to Cuba without any recourse or real representation. The reality is, we are not the threat, not nearly as much as those who misuse their powers against us and this is happening every day to someone, probably lots of someones.

God, I sound so anti-government, I'm not, not one which isn't corrupt, I just realize what is going on and the abuses which are taking place. There is nothing sacred about government, Congress or the office of the president, nil, zero.... and the people who can sometimes get to those offices can be nasty, corrupt and have ill intent towards the American way of life with a pleasant face and voice to keep their inner reality masked... sound like anyone you know in office now? Thank God they can't stay in office forever and are mortal, if nothing else stops them tyrants eventually get old and die.

Due process of law is evaporating:

https://shadowproof.com/2014/07/07/h...rican-citizen/

I don't want anyone to get me wrong, I believe in the American way of life and its system, when we have ethical people at the helm who follow Constitutional rights, but we don't have enough anymore. Just the reality I believe in the Constitution and am out spoken about it is now enough to put me on a watch list, this is how bad things have gone in America... It still has the name America, but the name alone means nothing anymore, it isn't the same thing now. I'm hoping Trump might have a start at putting things back on track, if he isn't assassinated trying.
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If the American people would just stand up against the blatant disregards of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

We can't agree on everything, but we must understand that each right is as important as the next, and for any of us to be free we must stand up for each other, or vote by a margin of 75% to amend the Constitution.

The transgressions citizens suffer these days that people flat out ignore will come around to haunt each of us, we have to take a part and stand against unjust unconstitutional law.

Otherwise it will snowball out of control.

Bundy and 4 others were captured just a while ago and 1 is dead after some shooting, but the rancher and his son who were given verbal permission to do a controlled burn on the federal land they used for their cattle ranching are still in prison for 5 years, this after serving a 1 year sentence.

It's double jeopardy, and now they can do it to anyone, because so far they are getting away with it.

I'm sorry, but I see us headed for trouble and I hate it, I don't want to see people hurt, but you cant negotiate with terrorist and who is it that are behaving like terrorist ? Who has broken their own rules and cheated people?
What do you think this will lead too?
Did anyone support the radicals who took a stand?
Would years of legal action have made a difference?
It hadn't so far, we have a problem.
Our protectors are cheating us and hurting us and calling it legal when by definition it is not.
I do not see this getting better on it's own and I hate it.
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I hate it too, this isn't your fathers America anymore.
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We do the best we can treating others as we wish to be treated ourselves.

We try not to be fooled, not everything is as it seems.

We stand up for what's right based on the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, our religion, and our own moral compass.

The time may come when we are tested, and as my grandmother used to say, when in doubt, do what's right.

So what's the answer? I think Americans need to find common ground, and understand that each others rights are just as important as our own.

We need to remember that even if we don't like what someone else says they still have a right to say it, just as we do.

And always remember:

For evil to succeeded all that is required is that good men do nothing.
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