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Old 01-25-2016, 12:07 AM #305
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That just can't happen, if Americans are that stupid and welfare dependent...and she will screw the welfare people too, then we are not going to stay intact, the country will divide and anarchy will ensue if that criminal gets elected, that's my opinion/bet.

I really don't trust the electronic polling machines, I still have a hard time believing Barry got re-elected.

But if Hillary got the job states like Texas and other middle America and in the south east may well secede or just pass more protection law in contrast to federal, but then if no federal money comes in then no tax goes out, it could result in a civil war type scenario....I know that sounds crazy, but when officials in plain view are above the law when so much is against them, that kind of lawlessness has a tendency to spread.

Plus why are middle American farmers going to pay such a high tax to bail out California's welfare socialism bankrupt disaster, they are not going to want to and when no one else has to play by the rules, that mentality spreads.

We can't have 4 more years of division, Barry has us hanging by a thread already.

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Barry is such a disappointment to me, if I could go back in time and keep his parents from getting together, I would be very tempted to do that. I agree, when there is lawlessness at the top of the system, everyone else notices and then think far less of being lawless themselves, as much a crock as many laws are, maybe in some cases that's OK, but without ethics our country will sink in a mire of mud, everything will be affected.

All of that said, I'm blind to what would happen if this disappointment of a president didn't exist, we never can know what else might happen which would be far worse than what he has done already, even into the far future... I can't judge that, but I know I am so tired of seeing this guy on TV or photo's of him on the internet and his voice on the radio, I can't reach the off switch fast enough, or change the web page quick enough. Hell, maybe enough of us being miffed about this guys abuses of power might just be the thing we need to turn this country around and because of his being such a &^*%$ will be a blessing in disguise.
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The American revolution occurred with a very low percentage of the population actually participating in the fight.

I do not think the American people have the stomach for a real fight, not at this point. But, for those of us not dependent on the government for our survival and who see this coming, and I mean really see it. Would it be so bad to reboot?
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I think we are about to get a reboot if we want it or not with the amount of debt the government has incurred on our behalf. I welcome a reboot myself, just that I want it to put things back the way they were supposed to be as envisioned by the founders of the country which includes a gold standard and the money being coined or printed by the federal government instead of private company called the Federal Reserve which although the name has the word Federal in it, are a private for profit company who have been leveraging us for far too long.

I should probably stay away from this thread for awhile, all I can do is complain.
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You have the right to complain Alaskan, you have the right to your opinion, others do not have to like it, or they might like it, either way you have the right to speak it.

I am afraid many people are going to have to feel the pinch and if they are fooled into thinking it's those darned old rich people causing their dollar to shrink, rather than the Ponzi scheme private fed printing monopoly money, then they will never be ready, by the time many understand what happened they will be getting their work assignments from the manpower management department.

But global warming is our biggest problem and agenda 21 is the answer. NOT!!

People are so ready to be told what to do it's frightening, many can't even think for them selves, how the hell are they going to act for them selves.

We can't be afraid to speak the truth, it's the only chance we have, the ignorant masses need to be told the truth, they need the tools to understand and then they will want to change for the better, but as long as they feel entitled, the scheme will continue.

The lie is that business can be taxed to pay for their housing and food, the truth is business never pays tax, they only collect it, we have to keep talking so others can understand, then we can all vote to untie the hands of our economic engines and fix the problem.

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Well, if you want specific niche content, or high quality content, legally, you still have to pay for it.

For example, I'm kind of disappointed by the number of regular movies and tv shows, that are available in 4k. I expect the same is true of ****.

Annoyingly enough, I was recently looking for 180/360 movies to watch with samsung gear, and in terms of price to content, **** was both the best quality, and content selection. Something like ~30 movies, and access to 30+ "traditional" sites for $18. Which does make sense, the camera equipment for 360 videos is not very cheap just yet.

That said, for traditional "adult" content, can't see anyone needing to pay for it

Heh, kids these days, will never know what it's like to have to wait for a single damn picture to load.
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Well, if you want specific niche content, or high quality content, legally, you still have to pay for it.

For example, I'm kind of disappointed by the number of regular movies and tv shows, that are available in 4k. I expect the same is true of ****.

Annoyingly enough, I was recently looking for 180/360 movies to watch with samsung gear, and in terms of price to content, **** was both the best quality, and content selection. Something like ~30 movies, and access to 30+ "traditional" sites for $18. Which does make sense, the camera equipment for 360 videos is not very cheap just yet.

That said, for traditional "adult" content, can't see anyone needing to pay for it

Heh, kids these days, will never know what it's like to have to wait for a single damn picture to load.
I must be living under a rock. 180/360 Por|\|? I haven't even seen a 180/360 regular movie.
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I must be living under a rock. 180/360 Por|\|? I haven't even seen a 180/360 regular movie.
Yup, virtual reality is the future. I've only dipped my toe in it so far, but based on my limited experience I'd say it's going to be the next BIG thing. Where 3D tv's flopped, VR has the potential to be huge due to it's far more immersive nature.

Oculus Rift, HTC Vive, and Playstation VR are all coming this year (at least the first two) in consumer editions.

In the meantime, there is vastly reduced experience available by way for the Samsung Gear, if you own a compatible phone.

Taking an even further step down, there is google cardboard, which can be used with just about any decent smartphone.

Have to say, it's a completely different experience... if they figure out a way to simulate tactile sensation in the future, there will be a population decline.

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I do not think the American people have the stomach for a real fight, not at this point. But, for those of us not dependent on the government for our survival and who see this coming, and I mean really see it. Would it be so bad to reboot?
The problem is when to few are ready to make a stand too soon.
Look at the Bundy standoff in Oregon, they put that rancher and his son back in prison for 5 years after they served 1 year for doing a controlled burn, its double jeopardy, but nobody cares.
But if the sheeples power went out and their little pocket portal that they live their selfie snapping hollow wage slave lives in stopped working and wally world had no food on the shelf, it would be easy to blame that 5% who will be labeled domestic texxxist, and the stupid masses wont understand until the soldier at the checkpoint starts telling them they can't drive today, and where to go and what they have to do...then they might start to understand.

How many Jews in Germany wish they had stood up before the SS was at their door.

Apathy and complacency while Lowis Lerner and Hillary go unpunished in full view, Iran doing their own inspections, ok, no problem there, qitmo is 85% emptied out, who cares.....we all will is my bet, just not this afternoon, everything this afternoon and tomorrow will be about the same so who cares, it's all ok, it's hype....yea just hype.....so who cares.
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The problem is when to few are ready to make a stand too soon.
Look at the Bundy standoff in Oregon, they put that rancher and his son back in prison for 5 years after they served 1 year for doing a controlled burn, its double jeopardy, but nobody cares.
But if the sheeples power went out and their little pocket portal that they live their selfie snapping hollow wage slave lives in stopped working and wally world had no food on the shelf, it would be easy to blame that 5% who will be labeled domestic texxxist, and the stupid masses wont understand until the soldier at the checkpoint starts telling them they can't drive today, and where to go and what they have to do...then they might start to understand.

How many Jews in Germany wish they had stood up before the SS was at their door.

Apathy and complacency while Lowis Lerner and Hillary go unpunished in full view, Iran doing their own inspections, ok, no problem there, qitmo is 85% emptied out, who cares.....we all will is my bet, just not this afternoon, everything this afternoon and tomorrow will be about the same so who cares, it's all ok, it's hype....yea just hype.....so who cares.

Yeah, unarming the populace, and then taking them away in box cars was a real problem in Germany. I don't see the box cars with jews in them this time, perhaps with muslims?

I guess we should make sure the muslims are armed to help prevent what happened to the jews.

Taking guns away is a bad sign. America should not be disarmed...even if we say one group is dangerous, the way germany said the jews were. That's why they (Nazi's) wanted to take the jews guns, because they convinced everyone the jews were dangerous.

The other germans were allowed to have guns of course...if considered reliable to the state. They did not USE those guns to defend the jews of course, because, the Nazi gov had convinced them the jews were the enemy.




Iran has third party inspections, and facilities are filled with concrete to prevent re-use, etc...so not sure what the self inspection thing is about other than they also get to look?

Gitmo was of course a mess, with no real evidence to hold some of the prisoners, and others who were vipers with hair, etc.

I'm pretty sure Barry jumped at the chance to get rid of 8 more when that dopey deserter trade came up.

On the Iran exchange, those prisoners were just there for violation of trade treaty issues, not terrorism...IE: For crimes that were no longer crimes under the new laws....so, they were not dangerous...the way some of the gitmo guys might have been. (They didn't trade known bad guys, but did trade some suspected)


The US economy recovered better than most of the rest of the world, we recovered some respect lost during arrogant prior administrations, and, the stock market is higher now than it was before the crash.

Perfect is not the word, but, given the mess he inherited, and the lack of cooperation he got in DC, Barry didn't do as bad as its made out to be.

Its not like I'd vote for him a third time or anything, I just think he got a bad rap compared to his actual record.

Do we need to make a space on Mt Rushmore to fit him? No, he was not there yet...but perhaps not a space in hell either.


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I am not wanting to inspire a revolution or disrupt anyone's life, I just want people to think and not be so eager to pull the cart when the carrot gets waved.

Think before you vote and don't be fooled by the bs, you can't trade freedom for security and if the thieves are going to rob us make them steal it, don't vote in everything they need to plunder and rape in the name of global warming or what ever false flag is being waved.
Global climate change is not a false flag...unless your only sources are bought and paid for right wing whackos.

There are isotopes of elements, etc, that confirm where the carbon comes from, and, the INCREASE is from people.

We have understood the phenomenon (greenhouse effect) quite clearly for over 100 years.

I personally measure the CO2 levels for example, for work, and, we used to calibrate for an atmospheric 330 ppm, as that's what it was supposed to be in the sources published...but it was higher. I'd have to use cylinders of CO2 calibration gases to set the devices, as the REAL CO2 levels climbed to closer to 400 ppm, or higher in urban areas, etc.

So, sure, the tectonic plates are moving, there are nino cycles, solar cycles, volcanos, farting cows, and all sorts of other reasons for things to get warmer or colder...

But, when correcting for all that, the planet is warming. That doesn't mean its not colder in some places, say, Antarctica, or that some regions will be hotter or colder overall...as WEATHER is still weather...and the way the heat is distributed, with ocean currents, etc, tends to simply follow certain patterns.

So, the recent weather events were mostly WEATHER events. They were exacerbated by the overall increases in ocean temperatures, but, the GLOBAL cycle is changing things by fractions of a degree at a time, over many years....NOT making a day that's 10 degrees warmer, 10 degrees warmer, etc...So, mostly el nino right now, not mostly global warming....its just worse because of global warming...than it would have been.


A more productive argument, IMHO, might be what to do about it.

You COULD argue that you simply want to let it get warmer, displace coastlines, have people move inland, let deserts change to grasslands and grass lands become deserts, etc...let the biodiversity of the planet plunge, the food chain collapse, and trust the scientists to get us through it...as you yourself probably won't live to see the worst of it...just your kids/grand or great grandkids, etc...and don't worry about the economic impact on farmers and those who make their money from commerce and agriculture.

You could also argue that its a top priority, and we need to drop everything, and fix this one issue....and don't worry about economic impacts on those who make money from fossil fuels.

Or, argue its should be addressed, but on a planned methodical basis, where progress can be measured, and adjusted as appropriate.

You just can't truthfully argue its not real though, that's simply unsupportable.

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I'm going to be voting for Bernie. I think he has the right mindset and there was actually a story of him flying in economy class as he said(wanted to be with the US citizens) and not on a private jet, which is kinda neat. Never seen that before.

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I agree, its Carson.

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Have you been watching the news? Hillary may not be indited ,the FBI may not leak the results of the investigation. She might survive long enough to run, but Bush is a dead man walking. No way!

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If you read some of my posts above then you know what I believe and some of the participants have agreed with me that Trump may open up the opportunity. His success will encourage others to follow his approach to the media as well as the voters and it would be they and not so much Trump himself that could turn this thing around.


The collapse of the EU or civil war breaking out in Greece or Sweden may turn the Tide. If the European national parties rise to power due to the refuges or the low oil prices cause Norway to abandon some of its expensive socialist programs this may turn the Tide. If this same oil glut causes Putin to become more aggressive militaristicly, this too could turn the ...

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