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Old 11-05-2015, 06:09 AM #17
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Yes they do have a chance and will influence at least the direction of the nation.
Obama has stacked the supreme court and made changes, not all of then good changes.
Even more than electing someone good who can make things better we very much need to not elect someone bad who will make things worse.

We must not give up or else all our choices will be made for us.


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I'm just curious so I must ask, would you vote for Hillary over Carson?

If so what is your main issue, what matters the most in making your decision?
The classic douche and turd sandwich dilemma huh? I'll let you decide which one is which

Let me be clear I don't want either anywhere near the white house, or in charge of anything. I mean literally anything.

In metaphorical terms you're asking me whether I'd like to step into cow $hit or chicken $hit.

If I had to pick one of them, I'd go with Hillary.

She's purely self serving and a liar through and through (though I suppose that's par for the course for most politicians) but whatever else she is, she is well grounded in reality.

Carson... he is just plain delusional. Global warming? It's a myth, I don't see it. Gay? It's a choice. Evolution? Didn't happen. Big bang? Fairy tale. Obamacare? Worse thing since slavery. Planned parenthood? Plot to kill black babies. Racism in ferguson? Nope doesn't exist.

Maybe he's a savant with a scalpel, and a gifted surgeon, but given some of what he's said, I wouldn't trust him to dog sit for me, let alone run the country.
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Global warm does not exist he says?!? What the heck! 100 year storms and flooding are happening every 5 years. Storms are getting stronger, some species are dying off while others are having a population explosion. He does not see it? Wow :/
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I'm sick of all the silly parties being in control of government. I'm going to vote for whoever wins the primary for the sensible party. What's that? There is no sensible party anymore? Well, that's disappointing...I guess I'll vote for Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-win-bim-lim-busstop-f'tang-f'tang-olé-biscuitbarrel then.
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How many of you guys are happy with ObamaCare?
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Sad world when Donald Trump is my new idea of a patriotic candidate.

At least he stirred the pot, spent his some of his own money, ditched "politically correct" and took us off the usual path where you can find near zero actual difference between parties.

Where's Eisenhower, LBJ, or JFK when I need him.. I'd rather have a strong ideologue in the office, then another modern wishy washy politician. Dang, can anyone resurrect Ronnie.... I hated him when he was in, but at least he stuck to his policies. I don't care which party, but I'd like some one who speaks the truth, cares about the nation, business, and the little folk like me.


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I think IE has been hanging out with the Boys at starbucks to long.
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I hear you Steve. You watch all the crap going on in the news and videos of peoples actions today and humans are becoming more and more like savages. Sad to say it starts at home where there are not "leaders/parents" My Mother and Father taught me discipline, respect, right and wrong and what the rules were. Now the nation needs the same thing because it is not being taught at home as much as it should be.
We darn near need a dictator to say this is how it is going to be.
One of the biggest and most disgusting things is big oil. They crush new energy sources and sell to the highest bidder(usually China) So the USA does not even keep their own oil and gas a large part of the time.
Then they always say, oh we need this pipe line to the gulf, to frack and drill in your backyard to make America strong and independent from foreign oil. What a load of horse crap!!!
So yes we need a very firm leader to weed out the fat and unneeded for sure.
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I don't understand how you guys can begin to think about that this early.. The election is a year from now, isn't it? A lot can change in that time.
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Because now is the time to weed out the weaker candidates and the primaries and caucuses happen soon.
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I thought we were forbidden by law from exporting domestic oil.

The truth is Canada wants the XL pipeline and when they were paying Bill Clinton 500,000.00 for a speaking fee to come speak about some bs, they probably slept through what ever he said, it was just a payoff.

During that time Hillary said publically, I am not going to talk about the pipeline right now.

After the check cleared she said she was against it, now as for her opec contributors, their money flows in to halt the pipeline just like their oil.

What will free us is cold fusion, unlimited electricity and clean transportation, and who has rovers on the moon right now looking for helium3.....China.

LC if you want to feel sick just read about lead poisoning from leaded gasoline, the oil companies kept that under wraps until we were presenting test results from the blood of our children proving the stuff was poisoning us, finally they stopped it.


It's all about the money, they all are dirty, that's why I would vote Carson over Clinton.
I will take misguided but honest over a corrupt, evil, backstabbing liar.
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Just crude. Nice loop hole. Somebody padded pockets well. A 4 fold increase in the last 10 years.
Non-crude petroleum exports up four-fold, U.S. says - UPI.com
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Obamacare is another step toward socialism.
We are going to get hit with much higher prices in 2017 and you better believe this will be exploited as a power grab.

Anytime the government gets involved it costs more and we get less....just look at the Veterans hospital, is that the kind of healthcare you want.

Our only chance is to get laws passed to basically exempt everyone, but that will only be temporary, the control mongers will never reverse this, it's an open door to get involved in everybody's personal life and extract money.

No single President can fix all our problems, it will take the unity of the nation and the chance of that is slim to none unless we have a comet impact, a plague, or WWIII, otherwise we are all too divided to stand together.
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How many of you guys are happy with ObamaCare?
I think it's a step in the right direction but far from what I hoped for. It's not entirely his fault though as he had to make so many changes to get it through congress it barely resembles what his vision was. It hasn't helped my family all that much. Our household income should qualify for subsidized aid but because I live in Oregon and my wife isn't a citizen they denied our application. So now I pay as much of not more than I would have without Obama care except I am now forced to have health coverage or pay penalties to the IRS. IT PISSED ME OFF.
I DONT UNDERSTAND why everyone thinks socialized health care is such an evil thing. My wife's from England and we lived there for a bit. Their health care system is pretty darn good other than longer waits than the private system. We're the only major world power that doesn't have health care yet pay as much taxes as every other country that does. However our defense budget is more than every other country combined. Why nobody is talking about that but instead immigration is beyond me. Our taxes pay enough to give every single person here full health coverage but the pentagon gets all the money for weapon development for future wars.

As a veteran of the gulf war I served my country and be,I've in a strong military but the USA spends insane amounts of money in our military that could be spent in better ways. There is absolutely no excuse that we don't have health coverage payed for my our taxes, it really pisses me off. I pay 44% of my income to taxes and still have to pay close to 500$ a month for mediocre coverage. Our teachers have to buy suppliesmformtheir students outmoded their own pockets and hold friggin fund raisers for books for the kids. But you think the pentagon ever doesn't have what they need?

Also @redcowboy, why do you think socialized systems are so bad? Have you been to Germany, Ntherlands, UK, Canada? Their services are incredible. I don't understand why so many people bash these systems that are shown to work well. Seems like too many Fox News believers that believe the lies about these health care systems in other countries. Most people have never seen them or visited these places to know how good they have it and how insane it is we don't. I'm not trying to argue just truly curious why socialism is such a 4 letter word. I think privatization of things like hospitals, prisons, water and electrical companies are not what's best for a country. Just my opinion. Esp epically prisons. Worst idea ever and cause huge amounts of suffering to keep those cells full and costs the gbt billions of dollars. That's a whole another discussion though.
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