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In my State we have stand your ground and castle doctrine, but I still avoid trouble and dismiss someone who's having a bad day, but having hands free video is a good idea if you ever have an incident. You have to be in the habit of recording in order to have it if you ever need it though.

I have a dash cam in my truck and I keep a little necklace/shirt pocket cam on my desk incase I need to go to the door or deal with something where I want hands free video, 720p with audio for 25 dollars at Walmart and uses a micro SD card, there's also sunglasses with thick arms if you want to be covert such as out in public, the glasses stay pointed where your looking better, I just ordered some with clear lenses for this winter.

I had a pair of insurance fraud jerks flat out lie to try to rob my insurance company a while back, but luckily I got a good judge and asked enough questions when I had them on the stand to trap the bastards, but now I always have my dash cam on.

I do have cams on my house, but having one FPV would be a good idea if it's ever needed.

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Unfortunately many states have adopted similar policies to UK. In NJ for example you are actually required to retreat, and may only use force if you yourself are actually in danger. Which imo is asinine.

The other extreme are the states where you are allowed to kill in defense of property.

Personally should anyone break down my door, I know I am going to be in fear for the lives of my family, friends, and myself, and will act accordingly. I'm hoping given his stance on many issues the trump presidency will weigh in on the issue to shut it down once and for all. I am also very much in favor national concealed carry permits.
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The vast majority of gun owners are kind, caring, good people who feel empathy for others and never want to shoot a living soul, but we understand that in order to stop evil, possibly one day we may have to, worse yet we fear having to witness the slaughter of a loved one while standing helpless after being neutered by a control hungry government.

Criminals don't obey gun laws, but if they know breaking into a home means they can be shot on sight, that they understand, just like they understand gun free zones are the safest places for them to mug/rape someone.

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We have pledged to take in much more than 25,000 Syrians.. More like closer to 50,000 will arrive by next year (so another 25000-35000). We already have Muslim areas in around Vancouver and Victoria with populations from islamic nations nearing 30,000 (Delta area) and it is though that the total population in BC is closer to 150,000 - 170,000. We have not had a single problem. Islam in Canada is as old as Canada (going back to the 1860s.)

I beileve the problems in Europe stem from how migrants and immigrants are treated in general. They aren't integrated well at all.
Also from what I saw in France back in 1996 (now is far worse situation) visible minorites are routinely descriminated against. Europe clearly makes it known that Europe is for Europeans only and anyone else is a 2nd class citizen.
On the number: We've had a vast numbers of muslim immigrants living here dating back to around the 50s/60s when they were invited as 'guest workers' but never left but just settled and lived here. There were mostly of turkish and moroccan origin. Until the 90s we really had few 'muslim problems' at all, it started to get out of control during the last 15 years or so.

Hard figures are difficult to produce since religion is not officially registered (like say gender or place of birth). Estimates as that we had about 650.000 muslims in 1995 and have well over a million now, on a population that in total grew from about 15 to 17 million over that time period. The difference between 1995 and 2015 is huge though.

As in europe treating non-european immigrants as second class citizens: In the netherlands this does not happen unless there is a reason for it. Groups that cause problems are spoken out against, these can be non-european muslims, but also eastern-european christians, or african christians as well as people from our former colonies like suriname and the antilles. Groups spoken out against often are statistically far more likely to commit crimes, collect welfare and such compared to the average.

There are also groups that are perfectly well accepted. Eastern asian migrants like japanese, koreans, chinese or indonesians are generally well respected and not discriminated against in any way.

The same would go for US or canadian immigrants, but as those are mostly of original european descent it would be hard to indentify them quickly based on looks or anything like that. So for any white american moving to western europe it's essentially moving back to where you came from, possibly a few hundred years late
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What this shows is that the Democratic party needs to put a LOT more effort into reaching out to white males, and males in general. As I said earlier in this thread, Hillary struggled severely at attracting anyone other than feminists, radical social justice warriors and minorities. Even the majority of white women voted for Trump with something like 55%.

This is another interesting thing to analyze also. It's interesting how minorities overwhelmingly supported the overall inferior candidate, and now need to suffer through a Trump presidency which is the opposite of what they wanted.
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The DNC needs some SERIOUS overhaul or else they'll keep losing like they did in this election. It is quite sad that they lost to Trump who.... aka, the most disliked candidate in US history.

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They're amazingly out of touch with white Americans going off the charts. Not trying to be racist here at all, but the charts don't lie. Either white people are really all racist, or Hillary had a spectacularly epic failure at reaching them. I'm going with the latter myself. I'm white and I proudly voted for Obama. I just couldn't bring myself to vote for Hillary though.
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It's interesting how those graphs are made by electorate gender and race, and to some degree education level.

What would they look like for things like the 0-20%, 20-40%, 40-60% income brackets and such metrics?

Personally i have more than 2 parties to choose from, but i vote based on what a party plans to do (and how realisitic it is they actually get something done). I do not care if the leader of that party is the same gender or race as myself.

Honestly it is a bit hypothetical here though, all leaders of parties that can expect more than 10% of votes are white males in the upcoming elections. There have been some female party leaders in the past, but not for the one(s) i would vote for.

One interesting thing is that you can vote for specific people within a political party here, and some women make a bit of a point of it to vote for the highest listed woman in that party. Afaik this has never resulted in the male party leader getting fewer votes than the highest listed woman, but i theory it is possible (and of no further consequence).
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I will probably never vote Democrat they stand for a lot of things I don't like. I'll vote 3rd party or deez nutz before voting Democrat. Ethnicity or gender does not matter to me. All that matters is the candidate being qualified. Hillary was not going to "reach" me no matter what.
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For many people this election went very wrong, I have family members who were crying when Trump was elected, I however was pleased, I was getting a bit depressed Hillary was going to win, as it appeared. Why don't I want her? God, the things she has done in the past, The Clinton Foundation payments from the Saudi's in the many millions of dollars, her acts in violation of national security rules was outrageous for someone at her level in government, completely bonkers. I really think she should be made an example of, take her to court and try to get a ruling to throw her in jail, even if for a period of months, if nothing else.
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Yep. With republicans in the house, senate, and the white house, there might be a good chance of something happening to her.

FWIW, I know of at least one black man that didn't vote for the witch. He pretty much hates the democratic party.
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I proudly voted for Trump, I don't buy the lies that have been spewing out of the DNC and the media for the last year at all about him. It is about time this country turned around from obamas dictatorship, his fear mongering, racial divide and arrogance. I am beyond excited that we have a full Republican congress and a great man at the head. We can expect great things in the next few years.

I too agree Hillary needs to continue to be prosecuted, and thrown in jail. Bill will probably die of aids or whatever other STD he has soon. He looks like hell.

Hillary has so many skeletons in her closet. And all the DNC and her could muster was insults(deplorables) calling everyone who votes republican racist, ***ist, stupid, un educated. What do they expect is going to happen when the only way they can debate is in that manner? There are so many fools in this country that are brainwashed by the liberal left and so many on the right who, that if they even speak their mind in opposition, they get shut down. The silent majority ruled, and ruled huge. This is quite awesome.
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Most of our media are just as bad and directly tied to the same corruption which has overtaken Washington DC.
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Yes they are, well said Alaskan. Can't rep you yet.
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I proudly voted for Trump, I don't buy the lies that have been spewing out of the DNC and the media for the last year at all about him. It is about time this country turned around from obamas dictatorship, his fear mongering, racial divide and arrogance. I am beyond excited that we have a full Republican congress and a great man at the head. We can expect great things in the next few years.

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I just love Trumps idea of getting rid of 2 regulations for each new one.
We were headed for a bad place, the American Dream was all but dead, but now we have a chance and I plan to be quite vocal in pushing for the undoing of many of the freedom robbing, restrictive, intrusive, often unconstitutional regulations.
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