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Why do you feel that the US borders are in a state of being porous? What threats do you see? Is is strictly a Mexican problem? Are you afraid of Muslims? What... please clearly highlight for me what has you scared/concerned enough to support Donald Trump?
As I am not an American and I found this whole election very foreign to me, in fact even a little infantile and depressing at times. Actually the grand waste of money spent on the lead up to the election was counter productive and could have gone into more productive things than an embarrassing world televised bickering contest.
YES, I want us to build the wall, we are being invaded!

Long ago people coming in illegally from Mexico knew that they and their children would be deported if they were caught

But today thousands of women believe that if their children can get across they’ll be allowed to stay and be given food, medical care and a place to stay.

Actually they are often turned loose at bus stops in the nearest city.

In 2011 about 7,000 unaccompanied minors were apprehended trying to enter this country. In 2012, that number doubled to 14,000. In 2013 it was 24,000 that were apprehended. 90,000 in 2014 and over 150,000 children from Mexico in 2015.

The DHS can't keep up with the inflow of illegal immigrants from not just Mexico but Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador.

The DHS is so overburdened that they are giving illegals pre paid bus tickets and asking them to come back in a couple of weeks, this is an invasion.

We are not deporting known illegals and they are flooding in, it's a big problem and last night they were starting fires in the middle of the interstate in California and blocking traffic.

It MUST stop.

There are ways to legally become a citizen, but what's going on now is not immigration , it's invasion and Obama passed DACA without Congressional approval in violation of our Constitution in 2015 opening the floodgates for illegals.







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Right now, the most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help as they reach for your wallet to do so with the rule of law behind them, or not, individuals we did not vote for making laws we did not vote for in the system too. This is how our system works, but when the top is rotten, all of the layers below tend to be rotten too, we need ethical leadership, not individuals seeking to push us one way or another against our will while they or the $$$ corporations they really represent get richer as they do so, as our senators and presidents always find time to do too. America has become far less the We the People country it was, more We the Corporations is how it is now. This needs to return to We for the sake of the individuals and families they are supposed to be representing, not these corporations who are stock piling money and getting richer as the middle class disappears. I can understand keeping money in reserve but wow...

I suppose anything I am complaining about could be refuted with argument, but that's how I feel and many others do too and that's the real deal for too many of us to allow the status quo to continue. If Trump turns out to be more of the same, and another after him, I can imagine a real revolt, not just votes like has happened this time.


Do you think that your countries problem is unique in this regard? I find it oddly hypocritical that people would have voted for the same party that actively undermined and blocked Obama's plans at every turn. Had Obama had better co-operation in the senate actual change could have been made. But no... you can't trust a black man with a middle name of "Hussain" according to your now new president.

Also something about America's name is also amiss to (United States of America) ... what I see is a country now more divided than ever. This is something I definitely didn't see during Obama's early years. :cryy:


@RedCowboy invasion is a VERY strong word. Do you happen to understand what is going on in Mexico do drive people to come to your country in the first place?
Do you think building a bigger wall is going to work? I think that oversimplification of a bigger issue is at play here.

- Just an aside:
I happen to work with Syrian refugees fleeing from what is going on in their part of the world. We have a very large number coming in our country every few months. They are ~98% muslim as you can imagine.
We also have ~2% Syriac Orthodox Christians as well. I heard Donald Trump explain that these people were largely terrorists. I was both saddened and shocked by what he had to say.
During our big fire in N.Alberta in May, Many of the Syrians wanted to go help fight the fires and provide support. Of course we told them that they should help by helping themselves first. We appreciated our 2 local mosques thoughtfulness.
Both my wife and I have made many Syrian friends this year and they always stop to chat with us. I want them to feel welcome here. I also want to know more about them.
My wife is also a new immigrant to Canada as well btw. A planned invasion I guess. The best kind in my opinion.
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CNN is predicting that Trump will also win the popular vote.

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Do you think that your countries problem is unique in this regard? I find it oddly hypocritical that people would have voted for the same party that actively undermined and blocked Obama's plans at every turn. Had Obama had better co-operation in the senate actual change could have been made. But no... you can't trust a black man with a middle name of "Hussain" according to your now new president.
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You find it odd because you appear to agree with some of the things Obama was doing, if not all of them. I don't see it that way, I disagreed with most of what he was doing, underhanded lying to the American public, first when running for office about how open and transparent he would be in his administration, then regarding Obama care. I bet if I googled all of the things he lied about and didn't do or was the complete opposite of what he promised us while running for office I would fill several paragraphs. Not that this kind of thing isn't unusual, all of the past presidents I've seen run for office have done it some, but this guy takes the cake away with how much he did it.

I don't find it odd at all, I am glad they fought him at every turn and I am not against anyones race, that is ignorance my friend, I might be flawed in many ways, but being racist isn't one of them and I was against him after I saw how he misrepresented what he was going to do as president, he joined the elite just like a slick CEO banker, forgetting where he came from except for his Muslim connections.
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Ok, I have a new axe to grind. is up with people now questioning that Trump was elected fairly? He wasn't my choice, he wasn't many people's choice, but he did win fairly with a clear win in terms of electoral votes, and very likely will win the popular vote as well.
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It's just denial. I still have family in Canada that think he's literally Hitler. It will pass shortly (hopefully).
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Well, I thought worse of Hillary, and I expected her to win, this was a pleasant surprise for me.
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Ok, I have a new axe to grind. is up with people now questioning that Trump was elected fairly? He wasn't my choice, he wasn't many people's choice, but he did win fairly with a clear win in terms of electoral votes, and very likely will win the popular vote as well.
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-c...on-december-19

I'm sorry, but it's going to be great if he wins the popular vote too. Everyone that signed that petition, rekt.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:14 PM #2413
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I'm sorry, but it's going to be great if he wins the popular vote too. Everyone that signed that petition, rekt.
"The person that got elected wasn't the person I wanted to get elected so we're just going to try to circumvent the system to get what we want"

"Also we'll say it's because he's unfit to serve"

This is just getting sadder and sadder.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:17 PM #2414
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I'm sorry, but it's going to be great if he wins the popular vote too. Everyone that signed that petition, rekt.
Yeah i saw that petition earlier, These peopel are so in denial, its sad.

CNN, which is a very DNC sided news organization, even predicts Trump will win the popular vote. So yeah. they are rekt
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Thank God that horrible witch Hillary lost, she is the most corrupt monster to ever run for office, so many people have died around the Clintons and with the Justice dept. and SCOTUS in her pocket she would have used her pen and phone as Dictator in Chief, it would have been a nightmare that could have caused untold misery and ended in a revolution or worse.

My family and friends all say that they are still thrilled every morning they wake up and know that she lost, it's like being told you are terminal then getting the news that your test results were wrong and you're going to live, every day is Christmas, Thank God she lost.
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^I do have to admit I am pretty happy she lost, not only because it shows that the citizens of this country realized how corrupt she was but also that rigging the election and not appealing to the younger base really killed her.

Hopefully we won't hear from her again!

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