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Old 11-09-2016, 06:23 AM #2353
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All I can say is Hillary NO.... Trump, you better quit being such a foot in mouth idiot.


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If you won, don't gloat.

If you lost, don't despair.

Change starts at the local level. Regardless of whether your party won or lost, a ballot is not enough. If you want to see change happen, you'll have to get out there and make it happen. It shouldn't matter if Trump's president or not, if you want to see an improvement in your community, you have to make it happen.
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Pretty close to over. America's sent a clear message... we'll just have to wait and see what exactly it is!

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Oh this is embarrassing guys, I can't even look up to other countries now without being ashamed.

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I honestly didn't think that would happen, but then I didn't think Brexit would. Lesser of two evils as some others have said, far better than Mrs Clinton being prez.
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Just watched Trump speak, he didn't say one thing wrong, made a lot of good statements.
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Donald Trump Folks!

Hope this guy makes america great like he says, I cant remember one thing Obama did that improved my way of life. Hopefully this guy is the real deal, and I am just glad that we don't have a Clinton coming in to take our guns away... I was so worried about a revolution under a Clinton presidency that I had fallen into a AR buying frenzy!

Anyway, let's all hope some changes for the good come in the country; Also, I think trump seemed like he had been celebrating for a while already on stage, and his woman looked angry when he gave her a vodka kiss LMAO
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Cheer up Alex, we just dodged a self centered criminal tyrant dictator, this is a very good day.
Trump will do a much better job for America, we have a fighting chance again to live the American dream, avoid war, improve the quality of life for everyone and stave off the economic collapse rather than jumping head long into it.

If we can survive the next 2 months of Barry we can start being proud Americans again, the Obama apology tour is ending.
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What's actually disgusting is how all the polls got it wrong as well as almost all of the media. There is a giant story in all of that. Scrolling through a lot of different channels this morning basically all these "smart" people are saying that Trump pulled off a "stunning historic" upet. This never should have happened if the polling was done correctly. I would like to see how the questions were phrased and who was behind them. Then again I feel like I already know the answer to all of that. The media will certainly be eating a lot of crow for awhile.
Where will the markets end up after things smooth out. There's is some panic at the moment which the media is fixated on but that's to be expected short term. Where will be a year from now is the question.
I'm certainly wondering what Obama is going to do for the rest of his term. Does he follow american/state wishes (he is winning the popular vote and not just the electorate) or does he do everything he can on his agenda which will undermine Trump agenda.
What's obvious at least to me is that the Obama legacy has taken quite the blow. What he does at this point may cement in history what his true character is. Will certainly be interesting if nothing else. Going to be tough on him if he comes out swinging when the public so clearly made a statement about how things are going. Won't be surprised if Michelle has a hard time holding back. Expect full fledged disgust that will be hard to hide. Can't see her shrinking back from this.
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About to watch the morning news shows and i hear over and over on all the channels how this was a stunning upset. Have to say again the stunning part was how much the media wanted a different result and how wrong they were. Political "shocker"? More like media bias running rampant and getting a cold hard slap in the face.
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Republicans now control the House, Senate and Executive branch, and since the Democrats used the nuclear option now it's on the table for the Republicans.

Maybe now we can get some much needed work done, such as restoring our Bill of Rights to the supreme law of our land above all else.

I am still shocked at how close we came to living under a lawless dictator witch who would have controlled the justice department and Supreme court, America has returned from the brink, lets make the most of it and never let it get that bad again.
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I don't understand the media surprise on this, just about everyone I have talked to regarding crooked Hillary agreed and also did not want her in office. I am surprised he did not do better in the popular vote, as much as I dislike calling it that.
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Of course there's some blame game going on for how things turned out but it appears that a lot of it comes down to the minority vote was not near as high as expected and we'll below Obama levels. I don't doubt this and I think it has a lot to do with how disgusted people were over both candidates and just didn't want to vote and/or maybe they didn't bother as there was almost no media that gave Trump a chance. The media itself may have been a big part of why Hilary lost which is kind of lol funny. Turns out the American public isn't as stupid as they think. Media has gone too far as a controlling entity and the people know it and are tired of it.
That reminds me of all the ridiculous Hollywood and music types (is there a difference?) coming out with their over the top anger spiels drunk with their own god complex. People are tired of all of it. Shock of all shocks, turns out your conceitedness has not gone unnoticed by the masses and your reach is not in step with reality. If you dont know how to cook, stay out of the kitchen.
Regardless of how any of us voted it was good to see some of the trash being taken out and some humble pie eaten by media giants and those who believe that regardless of what they actally know we have to listen to them because they are popular, can sing, act or have $. Reality can be quite different when you step out of your own cacoon of self.
I'm not holding my breathe waiting for apologies from the media for getting this so wrong. Almost everyone keeps saying how shocking it is. The best I've heard is Robin Roberts say he won fair and square which was quite the statement. I do expect the media to start to change their tone some now (at least in the short term) as they don't want to lose viewers.

For me, all of this stuff has nothing to do with all the friends I have here. First and foremost this is a laser enthusiasts site and none of all the other stuff like this matters. I refuse to see anyone through a colored lens here and I hope others can do the same.
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Of course there's some blame game going on for how things turned out but it appears that a lot of it comes down to the minority vote was not near as high as expected and we'll below Obama levels. I don't doubt this and I think it has a lot to do with how disgusted people were over both candidates and just didn't want to vote and/or maybe they didn't bother as there was almost no media that gave Trump a chance. The media itself may have been a big part of why Hilary lost which is kind of lol funny. Turns out the American public isn't as stupid as they think. Media has gone too far as a controlling entity and the people know it and are tired of it.

That reminds me of all the ridiculous Hollywood and music types (is there a difference?) coming out with their over the top anger spiels drunk with their own god complex. People are tired of all of it. Shock of all shocks, turns out your conceitedness has not gone unnoticed by the masses and your reach is not in step with reality. If you dont know how to cook, stay out of the kitchen.

Regardless of how any of us voted it was good to see some of the trash being taken out and some humble pie eaten by media giants and those who believe that regardless of what they actally know we have to listen to them because they are popular, can sing, act or have $. Reality can be quite different when you step out of your own cacoon of self.

I'm not holding my breathe waiting for apologies from the media for getting this so wrong. Almost everyone keeps saying how shocking it is. The best I've heard is Robin Roberts say he won fair and square which was quite the statement. I do expect the media to start to change their tone some now (at least in the short term) as they don't want to lose viewers.

For me, all of this stuff has nothing to do with all the friends I have here. First and foremost this is a laser enthusiasts site and none of all the other stuff like this matters. I refuse to see anyone through a colored lens here and I hope others can do the same.

and that is how it is, you said it well.
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This is a good day for the USA ! i am so RELIEVED

The media and polls all saying Killery was in the lead I never believed for a minute, they are all in the corrupt liberal pocket.

When trump was drawing massive crowds everywhere he went and she drawing tiny crowds I thought, "this is really good, trump is stirring the people up good"

I fell asleep about 1am est, then woke up a hour later to the Annocement of PA going Trump and then I and my folks were up and cheering. Nothing like a shot of victory whiskey at 3 am
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