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LOL well I can't say anything in 1st person that could be perceived as a threat, and that is a measure of the times that we are in, what people are flat out saying.

But when you see that people can no longer speak about these issues, then you will know our days are growing very short, I hope we turn things for the better, I hope no bad apples rear their ugly heads this holiday season.
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This is probably true of other primitive religions that require fierce penalties to control primitive peoples. With the enlightenment there was the replacement of theocracy with at least a competitive secular rule. True, there was often cross-over such as the king was ordained by God to rule, but the secular broke the monopoly.

The unique quality of Islam is the aggressive push for domination or conversion that has remained for 1,400 years. The Mormon church promotes conversion, but it is at its very worst, just annoying. The Koran is clear. You cannot take an oath to promote the Constitution of the United States and remain true to Islam. They are incompatible. If BO is a Muslim and does not reject Sharia law then that is another reason he should never been made the president. He should have made his position clear, however the Koran says it is permissible to lie to the Kafir, so who knows. Just like we as citizens do not have an obligation to take any immigrant into this country, we do not have an obligation to hire someone for the presidency that we don't want. It isn't their turn ie Jeb or Hillary.
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Good knowledge Planters, this is what so many people don't know, some don't want to believe it, others are simply not capable of understanding, but it is knowledge that we must share. 1400 years of instinct training will take a long time to change, if they want to, if they really work at it, I don't see any more than denial when being questioned.
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This video takes a while, but you leave it feeling like you have been hit with a grad level history class. Try to ignore the southern, preacher persona of Warner (you'll get used to it) it's the content that matters.

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I saw the video at the first link by Dr. Bill Warner a few years ago, was impressed, he really lays it out well. His persona is cool
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There is no doubt that I am a supporter of Trump.

It is fun to watch the incompetent and better yet, ineffectual media, attempt to campaign for Hillary. For so many years these progressives have populated our schools and government as well as our media. Anyone seen the latest Star Wars movie? They have become lazy and vulnerable. They wished and failed to get Jeb. They'd be OK with most of the other Republican candidates because knew they would decide the narrative. Trump is saying exactly what most Americans would say. This isn't mysterious. The only reason the progressive movement, which is essentially a form of socialism, has prospered is that they have intimidated alternative views from having the chance to compete. Trump is bright, but it is his openness to state what he believes without having to begin with an apology for being a man, a white, rich and an American that has opened a crack in the progressive strangle hold.

Bill Clinton is a despicable person, but the media would have probably given him a pass, said he presided during a good economy and maybe his wife (with his assistance) could do that again. You know I'm right. Only Trump could have so neutralized this philanderer and womanizer (stronger words exist) so that he may have to crawl back under a rock or hop back over to the island.

After what Paul Ryan did in congress there is little point in voting for any Republican unless it is Trump. There is no purpose to the RNC other than to promote the interests of the candidates themselves. Trump is as threatening to the RNC as to the DNC and that is wonderful!
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I know it's a tad early, but I'm gonna call the winner now...

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Bill Clinton is a despicable person, but the media would have probably given him a pass, said he presided during a good economy and maybe his wife (with his assistance) could do that again. You know I'm right. Only Trump could have so neutralized this philanderer and womanizer (stronger words exist) so that he may have to crawl back under a rock or hop back over to the island.
And now Hillary is letting him campaign for her, not a smart move I think, if she really wants to get elected she should keep him quiet and out of view. I don't see how she is electable anyway. I am sure many democrats can see this, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bernie Sanders gets the nomination.

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After what Paul Ryan did in congress there is little point in voting for any Republican unless it is Trump. There is no purpose to the RNC other than to promote the interests of the candidates themselves. Trump is as threatening to the RNC as to the DNC and that is wonderful!
I agree, but the very fact that he is a threat means they may find a way to keep him from becoming the nominee, no doubt there are people on both sides hard at work trying to dig up dirt on him.

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I think we need someone who will break things up, it won't be Hillary, that's for sure, more of the same with that lady, if I can call her that.
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Except that both Reagan, and much more so Trump, do know how to play to a crowd. Trump absolutely does have a number of advisers who tell him what to say, and how to say it.

Ironically, if the main factor is having a candidate who is consistent with how he acts, and what he says... Sanders is the only option. He's been consistent on all issues that he is pushing for DECADES. But he's also very left wing... so I guess that doesn't really matter.
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I think it is really simple. If you can't trust what they say then all bets are off. What they do will have to be based on what you think their previous positions indicate. But, if you do believe what they say THEN you have to decide if what they say is any good. If the Islamic terrorist say "Now I will cut your head off you infidel pig" and you believe him then his honesty is not redeeming.

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Here is where I am going to differ a bit. You remember the illegal Mexican immigrant issue that began this run of Trump's and the recent call for the moratorium on Muslim immigration? There was such a simultaneous gasp by the other candidates (both sides) and the media that they all asked if this was finally it. Was Trump now toast? I'd be surprised if Trump's advisers had been so unconventional and gutsy that they told him to do this. Where would they have come from to have told him to take such vulnerable positions? No, I think Trump is unscripted. He gets good legal advise, but these are really his positions. He says what he means, but unlike Bernie, his philosophy is much more likely to put the brakes on the Federal leviathan.

Our real problem (and to a large extent Europe's as well) is not the people, but this huge, unresponsive, irresponsible, condescending, entitled political class. Would you care for another Clinton or maybe a third Bush? Merkel's " how about a few million more"? Or, the man-bear-pig flying around in his Gulfstreem telling us to turn out the lights? This aristocracy is obscene and many are calling for the return of the Guillotine. I'll be satisfied with a Trump landslide.

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....Would you care for another Clinton or maybe a third Bush? ...I'll be satisfied with a Trump landslide.
I feel the same, this train needs to either stop or get on another track, a train is hard to stop, so lets go for a new Trump track, I think, he can't be worse than what we have had in the past, that and I trust a man who can't be bribed or is looking to earn millions more than a man who doesn't have money yet.

Any more, I feel so abused by this system I don't trust it anymore, not government, not the media, especially not the media. As far as the presidency goes, I am starting to question why we would give so much power to one man anymore, obviously, it can ruin a country, as we've seen lately. Giving power to a large group of people doesn't work either, not when corporations can spend a lot of money to lobby them. America is no longer controlled by the people anymore, not us, the very people which give it its blood, instead controlled by the blood suckers now; the corporations.

The corporations could not exist without us to feed from as both its resources as well as its customers, and many of us make our living off of this system we need to support to keep earning money, but when they become so greedy they start to destroy the very system they feed off of, it is going too far and we need to step in and stop them, so we vote for someone we think will represent our interests, but most of them were bought and paid for by the corporations to begin with to fund their campaigns, and so it goes, round and round, where it will stop, no body knows... but I'm hoping Trump can help put the brakes on some of it.
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I understand where you guys are coming from. We do definitely disagree on some social issues, but I don't think Trump is a viable candidate.



I suppose if the choice was Trump or Hillary, I would consider Trump.

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Trump has surprised us to no end he has gotten as far as he has, maybe he will continue to do so. I have nothing against Bernie, I just don't know if he has the steam and anger within him to push back hard enough. Perhaps he has the needed skills to work with these people so he doesn't need as much, I don't know.
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Default Re: LPF's Presidential Candidate Vote USA

I suggest researching him more. Trump actually does have the support of the media in that they are constantly putting up articles about him, and talk about him non stop.

Meanwhile on both sides, CNN, and Fox, both try to avoid saying anything about Sanders like the plague.

As accomplishments go, he's gotten more done already, and in this election than Trump, and has been far more consistent in what he says, and what he does. Trump... used to be democrat. Still is IMO.
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