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Old 10-28-2016, 05:49 AM #2177
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...also if the voting machines were intentionally changing votes, wouldn't the goal be to not show the voter it was changed?

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Why would anyone doubt the government?
After all, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, PEROID !
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So the FBI just reopened the Clinton email investigation.

Either they have found damning evidence that can't be covered up, or they are trying to draw attention away from WikiLeaks.

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So the FBI just reopened the Clinton email investigation.

Either they have found damning evidence that can't be covered up, or they are trying to draw attention away from WikiLeaks.

I guess we'll see.

Seems they've at least found new evidence that may be relevant. And 11 days before the election too.

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@H2Oxide: I'm sharing this. I'd +rep you if I could. I had not saw that post yet.
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HRC Talking about rigging elections in Palestine: https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546...mine-who-win-1
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I would say that it's not so much the war on drugs (or at least the concept), just the way it's been handled. I'm all for going after the big guys hard, but throwing individual users in prison rather than getting them help is just stupid.
Actually it's genius if you happened to have sold your soul.

Every new prisoner means you need more money that you can justify asking for in your budget.

Then of course there are all the added benefits of having yet another agency that is supposed to enforce drug laws, which have obviously failed, but the agency exists, and needs to justify it's own existence.

Where there is a demand, there will always be a supply. There's of course also case after case of drugs actually being sold by some agencies, CIA mostly, to supposedly fund uhm... well that's a load of classified BS.

And a wonderful side-effect is that the war on drugs is what has led to rampant abuse of asset forfeiture laws. If you are traveling with any large amount of cash and get stopped, there is a damn good chance that money will be seized as drug money. The burden will be placed on you to prove that it isn't. Since it's a long and technical process it just isn't practical unless it's a large amount. Doesn't matter that you didn't do anything wrong. If that's not literal state sponsored piracy I don't know what is.

Edit: All government agencies operate on a somewhat crazy principle where budgets are concerned. Specifically that the allocated budget must ALWAYS be spent. After all if you don't spend it all, you'll be given less the following year.

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Actually it's genius if you happened to have sold your soul.

Every new prisoner means you need more money that you can justify asking for in your budget.

Then of course there are all the added benefits of having yet another agency that is supposed to enforce drug laws, which have obviously failed, but the agency exists, and needs to justify it's own existence.

Where there is a demand, there will always be a supply. There's of course also case after case of drugs actually being sold by some agencies, CIA mostly, to supposedly fund uhm... well that's a load of classified BS.

And a wonderful side-effect is that the war on drugs is what has led to rampant abuse of asset forfeiture laws. If you are traveling with any large amount of cash and get stopped, there is a damn good chance that money will be seized as drug money. The burden will be placed on you to prove that it isn't. Since it's a long and technical process it just isn't practical unless it's a large amount. Doesn't matter that you didn't do anything wrong. If that's not literal state sponsored piracy I don't know what is.

Edit: All government agencies operate on a somewhat crazy principle where budgets are concerned. Specifically that the allocated budget must ALWAYS be spent. After all if you don't spend it all, you'll be given less the following year.
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Actually it's genius if you happened to have sold your soul.

Every new prisoner means you need more money that you can justify asking for in your budget.

Then of course there are all the added benefits of having yet another agency that is supposed to enforce drug laws, which have obviously failed, but the agency exists, and needs to justify it's own existence.

Where there is a demand, there will always be a supply. There's of course also case after case of drugs actually being sold by some agencies, CIA mostly, to supposedly fund uhm... well that's a load of classified BS.

And a wonderful side-effect is that the war on drugs is what has led to rampant abuse of asset forfeiture laws. If you are traveling with any large amount of cash and get stopped, there is a damn good chance that money will be seized as drug money. The burden will be placed on you to prove that it isn't. Since it's a long and technical process it just isn't practical unless it's a large amount. Doesn't matter that you didn't do anything wrong. If that's not literal state sponsored piracy I don't know what is.

Edit: All government agencies operate on a somewhat crazy principle where budgets are concerned. Specifically that the allocated budget must ALWAYS be spent. After all if you don't spend it all, you'll be given less the following year.
Of course. I'm well aware of why the system functions like it does, I just think it's unjust and needs to be reformed.
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This is another point where the US should take a look at how european countries deal with the problem.

In many european countries consuming drugs, or possessing a small amount clearly for personal consumption, is not prosecuted at all. It may be technically illegal, but if you're cought with something like 1 xtc tablet, 1 gram of cannabis, or about half a gram of cocaine or even heroin, it is often assumed that is for personal use and not for resale (which i think is a reasonable assumption).

The practical procedure is that you'd give up the substance to the police after which no criminal charges are filed. This helps enormously as it prevents drug users from filling up prisons, taking court time etc, leaving room for police to go after the dealers.

As for posession of large amounts of cash: If you travel across borders in europe any amount over 10.000 euros (about $11.000) is considered suspicious. One may question the origin of this cash, but if you have a receipt for withdrawing it from a bank, an invoice that was paid in cash or something like that it is not a problem.

The burden of proof is not on you though. If you have a valid reason to have such amounts on you it's often easiest to just explain that, even if it was a gift from family or something like that. You are free not to give any explanation and leave proving any breach of law to the prosecution if you choose to. The downside of that is that you'll probably miss your flight even if you obtained that amount of cash perfectly legally.
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