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Old 10-19-2016, 05:36 AM #2097
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...so with the debate tomorrow, place your bets now: better, worse, or the same as the previous two?

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Yeah, I am not inline with Libertarians. They have a pretty much let the public take care of itself. They don't believe in regulating the financial institutions that got us in so much trouble in 2007 and 2008, nor any regulation of the environment by agencies like the EPA, or social security that I paid a great deal of money to my entire life, or many other things that only government can effectively do. Most people who align themselves with them are still young and have not seen the reasons for the things that only government can regulate and also see themselves as indestructible, as all kids do. Once they get to be over 40, that usually changes. I know that some people here have felt the EPA was doing something bad when they closed a lead smelter plant, but we had one here in Tacoma at the turn of the 19 century that has poisoned the soil here so badly that people with small children are warned not to allow them to play in the dirt here. And, it was the EPA that got rid of leaded gasoline which was a huge health hazard by putting lead particulates into the air we all breath.
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Yeah, I am not inline with Libertarians. They have a pretty much let the public take care of itself. They don't believe in regulating the financial institutions that got us in so much trouble in 2007 and 2008, (Free Bailouts on your dime) nor any regulation of the environment by agencies like the EPA, (Responsible for 3 Million Gallon spill on the Animas River, no charges) or social security (insolvent/govt owes it money, it has turned into a general fund tax), that I paid a great deal of money to my entire life, or many other things that only government can effectively do (Like what, you have listed some STELAR examples so far). Most people who align themselves with them are still young and have not seen the reasons for the things that only government can regulate and also see themselves as indestructible, as all kids do. Once they get to be over 40, that usually changes. I know that some people here have felt the EPA was doing something bad when they closed a lead smelter plant, but we had one here in Tacoma at the turn of the 19 century that has poisoned the soil here so badly that people with small children are warned not to allow them to play in the dirt here. And, it was the EPA that got rid of leaded gasoline which was a huge health hazard by putting lead particulates into the air we all breath.
Funny how statists list mismanagement and down right fraud as successful government programs.

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I can't speak for the other stuff, but the bailouts were paid back with interest.

(Clarification: Not everyone who received a bailout has paid back, but the treasury has received more back than it originally paid.)

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Told you I wasn't a Trump supporter Paul I just hate Hillary (And Co.) way more for obvious reasons... Pretty sure I could get behind Jill Stein though! I'm pretty damn left wing really, although maybe less so than in years gone by.
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Told you I wasn't a Trump supporter Paul I just hate Hillary (And Co.) way more for obvious reasons... Pretty sure I could get behind Jill Stein though! I'm pretty damn left wing really, although maybe less so than in years gone by.
Many young people are left wing. As there grow older, some swing to the right. I never have, though, as I remembered Nixon, Reagan and then the two Bush presidents. My father was a Republican his entire life and I was too, until I got old enough to see what the real differences were. I thought that Eisenhower was a pretty good president, but he was the last Republican one I agreed with. I think the reason that Trump was able to be nominated this time is the existential threat to the party as it exists today. There is no room for opinions other than those espoused by their base. They have allowed themselves to limit the people they will accept as Republicans and have excluded many who may have supported them. It remains to be seen what this election will do to the party, and if it will survive as a politically relevant extension in presidential election years to come.
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Hmmm... As absentee ballots have started getting moved around a lot of Democrat supporters are getting busted for election fraud and destroying ballots.

Californias ID law allows illegals to vote in US elections (Anybody with a Drivers License)

Here we go folks... It's starting.
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Yeah, the 3rd and final presidential debate is happening tonight! I predict unfortunately that it's going to be just like the other two debates. You know? Where they bitch & moan about one another and what they've done in the past and not even talk about what the real issues are?

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Where is your proof of election fraud? These charges always come sans any evidence to prove the accusations. In the past 1 billion ballots cast between 2000 and 2014 there have been 31 examples of actual election fraud. I need to see proof.
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I see a lot of but hurt and confused Hillary supporters...

I can't wait to see the butthurt here on election day.
Depending on how many people in your region think as you do, you might want to stock up on Preparation H before the election in case there's a run on it on Nov 9th.

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The Vegas Book on the Debate and the Election Today

Even though Predictwise currently has Clinton ahead to win the election by 90%, Bovada, the sports book that offers bets on the Super Bowl, is offering Clinton at -500. This means you have to bet $100 to win $20. Trump is at +350. This means that if you bet $100 and Trump wins the election, you will win $350. On the debate, Bovada is offering over/under bets. Who will interrupt first tonight? Trump is the heavy favorite. How many times will "wikileaks" be said? (over/under 3.5). How many times will Trump say "tremendous"? (over/under 8.5). Will Clinton and Trump shake hands before the debate? Even money. The best bet of the night! How many times will Trump say "rigged" or "rig" (over/under 4.5). Over should be a very good bet.
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I think I'll take Trump.

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I think I'd take the under. I don't know if they'll dwell on that, and I doubt Hillary says the name.

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I'd take over on this, between (fair) accusations regarding the Democratic primary and then the theories on the general... safe bet I think.

Who wants to keep track and see how wrong I am? I'm not sure I have the patience.

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Hilarious, Trevor. I'll try, but i can't guarantee anything.
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