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Old 09-23-2016, 11:44 PM #1793
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At this point I think all the polls are BS. Just a few days ago a poll was showing Hillary up by several points. Let's get the debates done and then I'll start taking polls seriously.
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http://onlineconservativepress.com/2...meras-were-on/


The campaign Hillary4America, a group that advocates for the policies of Hillary Clinton, was searching for recruits to go to the polls and preach the word of Clinton. Two things are wrong with this:

First, it’s illegal to go to a polling/voter registration place and tell people who to vote for. It’s the reason why candidates can’t go to a polling/voter registration place and talk with voters, despite Bill Clinton doing it anyway and the media staying quiet about it. This seems like a clear cut case of voter manipulation and fraud.

Second, the idiots behind Hillary4America didn’t know that one of their prospective recruits, the very people they were instructing to violate voter laws, had a hidden camera on the whole time and exposed them for the crooks they really are.



Let’s just put it this way: If Donald Trump’s campaign was found guilty of this crime, the media would pre-emptively announce his resignation and carry him out of town, pitchforks and torches in hand. However, Hillary Clinton is apparently immune to any criticism in the media.
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The liberal/progressive/socalist (or whatever label they use now) mental disorder is resulting in special right's for individual groups.

From getting to ignore the "We reserve the right to refuse service" signs, to things like this.

Mass. High Court: Blacks Have Special Right to Run from Cops | American Renaissance

Black men may have a legitimate reason to flee Boston police during investigatory or “Terry” stops, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled Tuesday.

The court found that systemic racism in the Boston Police Department may be considered in conjunction with a suspect’s decision to flee from police during a stop.

A Terry stop, named for the U.S. Supreme Court case which sanctioned the practice, refers to a brief detention and search of an individual due to reasonable suspicion of criminal conduct.



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We do not eliminate flight as a factor in the reasonable suspicion analysis whenever a black male is the subject of an investigatory stop. However, in such circumstances, flight is not necessarily probative of a suspect’s state of mind or consciousness of guilt. Rather, the finding that black males in Boston are disproportionately and repeatedly targeted for FIO encounters suggests a reason for flight totally unrelated to consciousness of guilt. Such an individual, when approached by the police, might just as easily be motivated by the desire to avoid the recurring indignity of being racially profiled as by the desire to hide criminal activity. Given this reality for black males in the city of Boston, a judge should, in appropriate cases, consider the report’s findings in weighing flight as a factor in the reasonable suspicion calculus.
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Citing disproportionate stops of black men by police, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court declared that black males may have a legitimate reason to flee from the police. The decision vacated the conviction of Jimmy Warren, an African-American convicted of unlawful possession of a firearm in Roxbury in December 2011. He was apprehended after he fled from police who were investigating a reported robbery nearby. While he vaguely matched a description of one of the robbers that had been given to the police, " two black males wearing ubiquitous and non-descriptive 'dark clothing' and one black male wearing a 'red hoodie'", the court ruled that did not amount to reasonable suspicion to stop Warren. The court relied on data from a study of field interrogations and observations by Boston police from 2007 to 2010, and an analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union, that black males had a disproportionate number, 63%, of encounters with police while making up less than a quarter of the population.
"This is being incorrectly reported by the media. It didn't say that black men have a right to flee", said Nelson Lovins, Warren's defense attorney. " We all have the right to flee, that's the case law. If a cop comes up to you and says, 'I want to talk to you', you should say to him, 'you and I both know I don't have an obligation to talk to you and I'm leaving.' And that can happen by walking, or running away."

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In a four way split the presidential election today has Clinton 45% Trump 39%

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Clinton leads trump by 4% 41% to 39% In a four way split Clinton 39% Trump 37% Johnson 7% Stein 2%

USA TODAY POLL today Clinton 52.8% Trump 46.5%

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Clinton 41.8% Trump 39.7% Johnson 8.9% Stein 2.9%
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Citing disproportionate stops of black men by police, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court declared that black males may have a legitimate reason to flee from the police. The decision vacated the conviction of Jimmy Warren, an African-American convicted of unlawful possession of a firearm in Roxbury in December 2011. He was apprehended after he fled from police who were investigating a reported robbery nearby. While he vaguely matched a description of one of the robbers that had been given to the police, " two black males wearing ubiquitous and non-descriptive 'dark clothing' and one black male wearing a 'red hoodie'", the court ruled that did not amount to reasonable suspicion to stop Warren. The court relied on data from a study of field interrogations and observations by Boston police from 2007 to 2010, and an analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union, that black males had a disproportionate number, 63%, of encounters with police while making up less than a quarter of the population.
"This is being incorrectly reported by the media. It didn't say that black men have a right to flee", said Nelson Lovins, Warren's defense attorney. " We all have the right to flee, that's the case law. If a cop comes up to you and says, 'I want to talk to you', you should say to him, 'you and I both know I don't have an obligation to talk to you and I'm leaving.' And that can happen by walking, or running away."

ASSOCIATED PRESS POLL today

In a four way split the presidential election today has Clinton 45% Trump 39%

REUTERS/IPSOS POLL today

Clinton leads trump by 4% 41% to 39% In a four way split Clinton 39% Trump 37% Johnson 7% Stein 2%

USA TODAY POLL today Clinton 52.8% Trump 46.5%

REALCLEARPOLITCS today's averages of all polls

Clinton 41.8% Trump 39.7% Johnson 8.9% Stein 2.9%
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Yes we are giving special rights to a minority group that no other groups get.

Yes all media owned polls agree with each other.



Isn't it frustrating when you learn the other teams argument is based on facts?
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And, again, you got it wrong. Every American has the Right not to talk to the police even if they want to talk to you. And you can leave, by either walking away or running.
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Not if you are being detained on the basis of probable cause, or if you are under arrest, you do however have the right to remain silent.

I am against stop and frisk, but have no doubt, Hillary will rule with a heavy hand if she gets a chance, but she has existed above the law, Hillary is unfit and can not serve, the rule of law must be restored, as you said we are a country of laws, well Hillary has violated our law and must be brought to heel.
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This country belongs to the people, ultimately we hold the power collectively, when the rule of law fails that's called anarchy, I fear we are close to that point, if this lawless criminal is allowed to pose as President I fear a revolution could arise, or worse, we could become a dictatorship if we allow our Bill of Rights to be taken away.

You think police brutality is a problem now, what do you think things will be like if we let Hillary chisel away our Bill of Rights?
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The integrity of our nation is completely lost if we someone with no integrity whatsoever to claim the highest office in the land. If Hillary wins and rises to the most powerful position on Earth then it represents the ultimate victory of corruption.
That's my viewpoint at least.

Hillary is every bit as cunning and corrupt as Nixon was. The difference is Nixon didn't get in trouble until after he was already elected. Hillary hasn't even been elected yet and she's already been caught up in all kinds of scandals.

Aside from that, I'm just not comfortable with more family dynasties running our country. 16 years of bushes was too damn much. Do we really want 16 years of Clintons? Just look at how George HW bush has endorsed Hillary now. They're all the same really. Clintons/Bushes It doesn't matter anymore. Long term political dynasties that support each other and don't even hide it. Makes me think there's possibly some truth to all the 'New World Order' conspiracies.
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Not if you are being detained on the basis of probable cause, or if you are under arrest, you do however have the right to remain silent.

I am against stop and frisk, but have no doubt, Hillary will rule with a heavy hand if she gets a chance, but she has existed above the law, Hillary is unfit and can not serve, the rule of law must be restored, as you said we are a country of laws, well Hillary has violated our law and must be brought to heel.
Donald Trump has come out in favor stop and frisk laws. He even made a campaign pledge to make it happen more frequently, as if a president could walk over our fourth and fifth amendment rights. That is his stated position, though. He has said it at numerous rallies that he intends on making the stop and frisk policy of the police one of his campaign promises.
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Donald Trump has come out in favor stop and frisk laws. He even made a campaign pledge to make it happen more frequently, as if a president could walk over our fourth and fifth amendment rights. That is his stated position, though. He has said it at numerous rallies that he intends on making the stop and frisk policy of the police one of his campaign promises.
He has also said he wants to end the IRS and audit the Fed Reserve

IMHO that would expose so much BS in government that it trumps... stop and frisk
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Donald Trump has come out in favor stop and frisk laws. He even made a campaign pledge to make it happen more frequently, as if a president could walk over our fourth and fifth amendment rights. That is his stated position, though. He has said it at numerous rallies that he intends on making the stop and frisk policy of the police one of his campaign promises.
Yes, and Hillary has publicly endorsed Australian style gun control which is directly in opposition to our Second Amendment rights. A candidate with such open disdain for one of the keystones in our BoR shouldn't even be taken seriously.
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I disagree with that, but I won't fight to my death over it, I will fight to my death if necessary over my/our 1st and 2nd amendment rights and Hillary has promised to attack our 2nd amendment, and she promised to attack citizens united, they have the right of free speech even if it's exposing her activity. Freedom of information could disappear under Hillary.

But besides that, Hillary has broken the law and been sheltered by a complicit justice department, this must stop here, she can not serve or nothing will be off limits and we will have no recourse as she will have no accountability as per her design I am sure, she is 100% untrustworthy.

She is a decades long imbedded insider with the ability to destroy our freedom, she has already destroyed our rule of law as far as it concerns her. People should be mortified at the thought of raising children into a country run by such a lawless tyrant.
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Yeah, it's a real shame she's going to win. Thank you Donald Trump and the 12% of Republicans that nominated him.
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She won't win unless the election gets rigged, her rallies are full of mostly empty seats.

I am appalled that she is even in the running, she should not be, she should be in jail.

This is no small matter, we are under attack like never before, we face some serious stateside and worldly issues, we can't afford to fight for our rights while there is so much going on in the world that we must get on top of to secure our nations future, we need Trump.

Hillary could be the straw that breaks the camels back, I am seriously concerned, this is not like in the past when we could afford to slack off, we need a leader who will work for us, not against us. We have had enough of that.
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