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Old 09-22-2016, 06:55 AM #1761
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Well, my enlightened adversary, it is quite simple. They have 10,000 thermonuclear warheads that were not a threat when Russia had real elections, but with Putin are now a real threat again. Most national security analysts will tell you the same thing. But, you are only interested in giving the finger to our country.


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that and she could bring about the 2nd American revolution.

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At this point I fear Hillary is simply too divisive of a candidate. Seems like roughly 1/2 of the country would literally dance with joy if she were to die of a heart attack. Plenty of people dislike Obama, but it was never anywhere near this level. If Hillary is elected we're just gonna see 4 years of absolutely nothing getting done. You thought the republicans worked hard to obstruct Obama? It's nothing compared to what they will do to Hillary. Bernie was nowhere near as disliked by the republicans. Many people disliked his politics, but it seems like they still respected him as a human being.
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Trump supporters going wild over this one that surfaced today (May be a little graphic if you're sensitive or easily offended...): https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=R7yYARGFKbM
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That will surely be beneficial to the cause
That poor white guy is probably gonna go join up with the nearest white supremacist group after this.
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That will surely be beneficial to the cause
That poor white guy is probably gonna go join up with the nearest white supremacist group after this.

Yeah, it's just justifying further hatred which is not what anyone needs.

"Oh, another black person was shot by the police? LETS START A RIOT AND ATTACK LONE WHITE MEN, THAT'LL HELP!" - Not to mention it was a black officer that fired the shot this time, so it can't really be blamed on racism, can it? Guess we'll see what the videos say if they're released.

To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if the riots were started by (adjusts tinfoil hat) undercover "operatives", placed there to fuel tensions and further divide the populace.
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At this point I fear Hillary is simply too divisive of a candidate. Seems like roughly 1/2 of the country would literally dance with joy if she were to die of a heart attack.
She is just so very unlikable. Idk about half the country dancing with joy, but I'd bet on a good 80% not mourning her passing in the least.

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Can you blame him? Or that he may well react to any black person with extreme distrust, and possibly violence after something like that.
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Loretta Lynch came out and said what Barry should have, protest need to be non violent, otherwise they are going to further usher in the iron handed police state that we will all suffer under, remember the Mayor of Baltimore who repeated the words she most likely got from on high.

This lawlessness is being fostered and empowered for a reason, it's the first step of the Hegelian dialect again, first create a problem, then the people will choose one of 2 otherwise unthinkable solutions.

How hard would it be to go arrest 1 by 1 the violent protesters? There are cameras everywhere, facial recognition software is in use, you saw the latest pressure pot bomber was identified in a day.

No, this is being fostered and ignored to gain more control, a police state and loss of our rights.

Tonight the National Guard will be out and we will see curfews and checkpoints, imagine when people are so scared that they want that full time.



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Well, my enlightened adversary, it is quite simple. They have 10,000 thermonuclear warheads that were not a threat when Russia had real elections, but with Putin are now a real threat again. Most national security analysts will tell you the same thing. But, you are only interested in giving the finger to our country.
AAAHAhahahahaha!!!

Your afraid of a thermonuclear war between first world nations!!!
Bwwaaahahahahaha!!!

What an idiot.



That game was played out to it's logical conclusion back during the cold war.

It was called MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction)

It showed that a full scale war between first world nations would nave no winners.

So all the first world nations basically tied all our economies together and warfare that used to take money AND lives now only takes money.

Sanctions now do the financial damage that bombs used to to.



Again, a complete irrational fear of Russia and at it's core is a deep resentment that Russia gave up on Socialism.
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Again, a complete irrational fear of Russia and at it's core is a deep resentment that Russia gave up on Socialism.

BINGO!

BTW China is set to rule the world, they are about to surge forward technologically, economically, globally because Mainland saw how successful HK was and rather than take it back to iron fisted domination in 2000, China wisely embraced what works, as has Russia.
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I'm an idiot? Putin invaded Georgia in 2008 when the country elected a pro-western government. Then in March of 2014, Putin surrounded Crimea and invaded Ukraine to force it to become part of the Russian imperial expansion. He is and has been a threat to all of eastern Europe and a constant cause for worry in much of western Europe. This is beside the fact of the thermal nuclear warheads he has and can deliver. Trump is all of a sudden buddy buddy with Putin so my concerns are, by your speculation, a nostalgia for communism. NONSENSE! Trump is a pig with lipstick on it and does not even have an adult's comprehension of foreign affairs. Why is some white guy in North Carolina a reason for debate in this election? The BLM movement has always been a nonviolent movement with real issues as more and more unarmed black men are killed by police in this country, many without any repercussions or consequences. To conflate their movement with the violence of some blacks is to hold all white people responsible for the actions of the KKK when they have lynched, bombed or shot blacks who got too uppity.

BTW, the cop in Arkansas that shot the black man is now charged with manslaughter and the chief of police in the North Carolina town has agreed to show the videos to the family of the slain man, but won't release them to the public. He did say, however, that the video doesn't show the black man pointing a gun and we just have to take his word that it was a justified shooting. Maybe a court will make him release the video and we can all see what he doesn't want us to see.
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Russia is a threat and black people who loot and riot are heros.

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Yeah, as usual, you misquote me and your statistics are from some place in San Francisco. When you consider that blacks make up the most approached minority by police and that they are among the poorest, it is little wonder that there are more black convictions, or plea agreements where as whites are less likely to be confronted and many are able to afford legal defense. Who takes a sign that shows a black man holding a gun with his face disguised stating statistics about blacks killing anyone as unbiased? Oh yeah, AaronT.
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You can try to spin your argument however you like, we all know the real statistics.



These are all FBI crime stats, the graphics they are presented with have no bearing on factual content.


This one is from the NCVS study.




Or is your argument that simply because you are poor you can't follow the law or are somehow not responsible for your actions?

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You can try to spin your argument however you like, we all know the real statistics.



These are all FBI crime stats, the graphics they are presented with have no bearing on factual content.


This one is from the NCVS study.




Or is your argument that simply because you are poor you can't follow the law or are somehow not responsible for your actions?

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Cannot really argue with that. It's pretty obvious that blacks commit proportionally way more violent crimes than whites. The only possible argument is that whites commit more violent crime and are simply caught less.
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The problem is I'm sure to a large degree media driven, but BLM is hard for many people to like, because people who claim they are BLM or are protesting with BLM so often disrupt things, get loud, get vulgar and get violent. While I wholeheartedly agree there are race issues, and very very big, huge, policing issues, and judicial issues, to me BLM now seems like a group that is trying to create more racism, rather than address it. I have a hard time feeling sympathy for protestors who destroy neighborhoods, private businesses and stores, that have nothing to do with the cops or government, and just unlucky enough to be there.



Oh, and statistics have borne out time, and again, that once an interaction with police starts, the odds of that interaction ending violently are roughly the same regardless of race. So when black people dismiss the valid concerns that white people also have, well, that's not going to gain any support. At times, looking at these protests it seems segregation is actually being pushed forth, which is both sad and insane.

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