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Old 09-13-2016, 07:25 AM #1585
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Only the electorate can decide if she is qualified to be president. No one else will be able to do that. We'll see. It sounds like another Republican stretch for disqualifying any Democrat as president. They have done so ever since Bill Clinton won back in 1992. They have tried with Obama and they will try to keep anyone from getting to be a Democratic president. I'm pretty fed up with it and I know many others who are as well. There are at least as many Democrats as there are Republicans in this country and it is pretty obvious what Republicans have been doing for years. They think that it will some how work for them, but it only pisses people off. That's why there are fewer Republicans than there were back when Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voters Rights Act. And as long as they pander to their base they won't win another election ever. People are just not that interested in keeping women from having the right to choose whether to have an abortion or to keep tax breaks alive and well for the wealthy.


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The woman is having seizures, coughing fits and passing out, her past head injury has caused classified information to be exposed. She is not fit in many ways, but not even physically.
Her lack of intent was her only excuse, was that also due to head injury, blood clots?
Other peoples lives are at risk, they can pick another democrat, but not Hillary Clinton.

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All that aside, you nor the Republicans, nor anyone else can say she is unfit to serve no matter how much you would like to. As long as she continues to run, it is up to the electorate to decide. And it is totally her decision whether or not to run.
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Even if all she is sick with is Pneumonia, the way the situation has been handled has been horrible. Even before the latest fiasco with her stumbling, there have been many instances where her health came up, where she was literally propped up, has had coughing fits, has looked like death warmed over, wearing heavy clothes in hot weather.

Credibility wise, she just doesn't have any left imo. It will be quite sadly ironic if all her deceptions hand the victory to Trump, with the democratic party having literally conspired to give her the nomination.

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I'm no medical doctor, but I did lifeguard for 6 years and experienced first hand people having strokes, heart attacks, seizures, dysphagia, et cetera. Her symptoms are very reminiscent of a stroke/blood clot including her fainting, lack of energy, and unevennesses. This can also lead to vertigo which would explain her head bobbing seizures.
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All that aside, you nor the Republicans, nor anyone else can say she is unfit to serve no matter how much you would like to. As long as she continues to run, it is up to the electorate to decide. And it is totally her decision whether or not to run.
By electorate, if you mean:

( all the people in a country or area who are entitled to vote in an election )

No, the democratic national committee can replace her if they see fit.
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@HydroSean Your lifeguard experience not withstanding, I took several Medical courses at U of C in Denver, but was called out by RCB for not having a medical license. I, too, was a certified lifeguard back in the 60s. That is ridiculous to assume what you learned there compares to any medical experience.

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Except I was trained multiple times by the American Red Cross to identify the symptoms for strokes and heart attacks which does give me a viable opinion in serious medical conditions. Trumped by an MD or EMS yes, but nonetheless I still have a certification to identify and treat these conditions.
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When I was at UCD I was selected to apply for a Goldwater scholarship. I laughed and tore it up and threw it away. I was told only Dean's list scholars were invited to apply. My lifeguard training was also done by the American Red Cross. We were also trained in CPR and how to handle heart attack and stroke victims. It isn't as comprehensive as the medical program at UC Denver.
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When I was at UCD I was selected to apply for a Goldwater scholarship. I laughed and tore it up and threw it away. I was told only Dean's list scholars were invited to apply. My lifeguard training was also done by the American Red Cross. We were also trained in CPR and how to handle heart attack and stroke victims. It isn't as comprehensive as the medical program at UC Denver.
This has nothing to do with getting into medical programs at universities, it has to do with identifying Clinton's medical condition as a stroke or blood clot. I think you missed the point.

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I'm no medical doctor, but I did lifeguard for 6 years and experienced first hand people having strokes, heart attacks, seizures, dysphagia, et cetera. Her symptoms are very reminiscent of a stroke/blood clot including her fainting, lack of energy, and unevennesses. This can also lead to vertigo which would explain her head bobbing seizures.
One issue being that people suffering from heart attacks or or stokes don't usually seem very coherent and unaffected a hour later, most of them would be in hospital for quite some time.

Trying to make a diagnosis from observation of limited video material would probably be impossible, but if there was anything wrong with her that was not a problem for presidency, why not just make that public knowledge?

Something like peripheral vertigo would not be a problem in the job of president. It doesn't really require the skills to literally balance spinning plates on sticks or such. It would however be a perfectly normal disorder that effects the elderly and women most often so not be unusual.

Not giving explanations makes things worse here: speculation is that it could be something that -also- affects mental ability. There is a huge range of diseases that impair physical ability but have no ill effects on mental ability. Stephen Hawking would probably make a fine president
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I just read here that Clinton says she has pneumonia. Since when do you have seizures from pneumonia? I think there is something else she isn't telling us that is a more serious mental problem like you said Ben.
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No one ever said she had a seizure. Trump supporters have speculated that she has, but that is FAAAAR from proof that she has. Her doctor diagnosed her Friday as having pneumonia. She fainted on Sunday from being out with an illness and was dehydrated. You can speculate to your heart's content, but it doesn't mean anything.
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