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01-11-2016, 06:39 AM #1
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Lesson learned, don't parot something without checking to see if it is valid first!

EDIT EDIT EDIT - Original post removed.

I had to take this information down, Cyparagon negged me for being suckered into posting something I was trolled on and believed was correct. I do have an issue with the guy though, he could have chosen to kind and just inform me I was wrong, instead he attacked my character and negged.

One thing this young man needs to learn is it is more important to be kind than it is to be right.

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Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm

Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

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01-11-2016, 07:17 AM #2
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Chrisbee
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Stuff like this is when this forum needs one of those 'pile of crap' emojis.
So now I have to type it out...
What a pile of crap! lol

01-11-2016, 08:20 AM #3
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RedCowboy
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Estate tax has a 5.43 million dollar exemption, after that it's 40 or 45%
Obama proposed dropping the exemption to 3.5 million for 2016 but that is not yet decided.

That chain letter is not all correct, here's a site that may be more correct, but I know the estate tax exemption is 5.43 million for 2016 but proposed to be changed to 5.5 million.

For 2015 the estate tax exemption is in the 5.3 million range after which it is 40% or 45%

What will happen to taxes on Jan. 1, 2015? Chain email gets tax rates all wrong | PolitiFact
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01-11-2016, 01:05 PM #4
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Pi R Squared
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

The end is nigh.

Alan
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01-11-2016, 08:38 PM #5
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Maybe if you guys didn't spend \$650,000,000,000 on your military (Plus whoever knows how much more in the black budget), your taxes would either be lower or you'd have the same taxes with a bunch more to spend on social issues.

To put it in perspective - US Military spending accounted for 55.2% of discretionary spending in 2015. Medicare and Health was 4.9%, Science was 2.5%, Education was 6.2%.

Obviously it's not the public going out and spending that cash, but the public are the ones that should be voting for the right people to figure it out.

Last point, I can see the benefit of such a huge military spending. It has led to many advancements in many industries through the development of technologies which trickle down and end up benefiting the general public.
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01-11-2016, 11:07 PM #6
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Quote:
 Originally Posted by FUBeaches Guys i know this is none of my business but i'll chime in anyway, the Obamacare Plan is that to mirror the health care system of Australia. the aim of the system was to provide a better health care system. the funds go to improving the hospital facilities, training for specialist, hiring security personel, free vaccination program, support to rural area, government cover the cost of your medication and check up ,at least this is what it is in Australia that Obama trying to adopt. and sometimes ago Obama was thinking of adapting another Australian idea of proving support for the unemployed, homeless, injured workers. which basically means, house and shelter ,health are being provided. and weekly payment to get them back on their feet, training programs to improve their usefulness to society.
You are absolutely correct, It Is None Of Your Business. OBAMACARE HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID!!!

Quote:
 Originally Posted by diachi Maybe if you guys didn't spend \$650,000,000,000 on your military (Plus whoever knows how much more in the black budget), your taxes would either be lower or you'd have the same taxes with a bunch more to spend on social issues. To put it in perspective - US Military spending accounted for 55.2% of discretionary spending in 2015. Medicare and Health was 4.9%, Science was 2.5%, Education was 6.2%. Obviously it's not the public going out and spending that cash, but the public are the ones that should be voting for the right people to figure it out. Last point, I can see the benefit of such a huge military spending. It has led to many advancements in many industries through the development of technologies which trickle down and end up benefiting the general public.
Yes you're right, I don't see why we have to spend more money on the military than the next 12 countries combined! We would still be safe and still be the dominant force in the world if we spent only half as much.

Alan
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PLTB450B 450nm 1913mW G2 lens
PL520 520nm 82mW acrylic lens
S06J 12X 405nm 590mW G2 lens
C6 M140 445nm 1.5W 3 element lens
9mm 445nm with G2 lens in a stainless steel host
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01-11-2016, 11:16 PM #7
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Isaac Clarke
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Sorry P IR SQUARED my bad then.

01-11-2016, 11:49 PM #8
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Chrisbee Stuff like this is when this forum needs one of those 'pile of crap' emojis. So now I have to type it out... What a pile of crap! lol
This section IS where the crap goes, just take a look at most of the posts in this section, unless you prefer talking about religion which is a sticky at the very top, I wouldn't complain too much, LOL.
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Laser Safety:
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Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm

Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

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Last edited by Alaskan; 01-12-2016 at 02:14 AM. Reason: Gave more of a benefit of a doubt.

01-12-2016, 01:02 AM #9
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Pi R Squared
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

He may have been saying that what the government is doing is a pile of crap, not sure from the way he said it. Anyway the bullshit is piled so high in D.C. you're going to need snowshoes to stay on top of it, and I can say the same is true in Olympia Washington.

Alan
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PLTB450B 450nm 1913mW G2 lens
PL520 520nm 82mW acrylic lens
S06J 12X 405nm 590mW G2 lens
C6 M140 445nm 1.5W 3 element lens
9mm 445nm with G2 lens in a stainless steel host
Radiant Electronics X4 3.7W Laser Power Meter

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01-12-2016, 02:11 AM #10
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Few in government are altruistic today, it is a very sad state of affair we cannot place our trust in most of our elected officials to do what is best for us, instead they keep feeding the coal to the consuming fires of this awful machine we've built.
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http://www.lexellaser.com/techinfo_wavelengths.htm

Laser Safety:
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm

Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

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01-12-2016, 02:59 AM #11
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Cyparagon
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

You're just more mindlessly repeating bullshit you read online because it makes you mad. You'll believe anything, Alaskan. Next time you get pissed about something, check and make sure it's real first.

Our New 2015 Taxes Due : snopes.com
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01-12-2016, 04:02 AM #12
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Thank you for informing me I was trolled with that information, and your kind negative rep which I just returned to you. Why do you have to be such a blatant nasty **** on here when ever you know you are right about something, a deep character flaw I think. You would do well to tone it down, I think your response was worse than my being suckered into bad info and I returned your negative rep., that after I said I wouldn't neg anyone again.
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http://www.lexellaser.com/techinfo_wavelengths.htm

Laser Safety:
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm

Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

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01-12-2016, 04:09 AM #13
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VisibleGreen
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Re: Look what is happening, as if we weren't already taxed enough

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Cyparagon You're just more mindlessly repeating bullshit you read online because it makes you mad. You'll believe anything, Alaskan. Next time you get pissed about something, check and make sure it's real first. Our New 2015 Taxes Due : snopes.com
He can do whatever he wants. You said it yourself. This is a public forum. Don't like it? Then GTFO

01-12-2016, 04:28 AM #14
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Re: Lesson learned, don't parot something without checking to see if it is valid firs

The problem with this guy is when he negs someone it can take away 4 or 5 points. I've probably added at least 10 points to his reputation myself by giving him plus reps every now and then, that won't happen again.
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http://www.lexellaser.com/techinfo_wavelengths.htm

Laser Safety:
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm

Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

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01-12-2016, 04:34 AM #15
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Re: Lesson learned, don't parot something without checking to see if it is valid firs

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Alaskan The problem with this guy is when he negs someone it can take away 4 or 5 points. I've probably added at least 10 points to his reputation myself by giving him plus reps every now and then, that won't happen again.
Yep, I told you right from the beginning that he doesn't care about you +repping him.

01-12-2016, 04:43 AM #16
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Re: Lesson learned, don't parot something without checking to see if it is valid firs

He has built his reputation up so high that it is now a weapon, he enjoys negging, I am sure of it. I know he negged you a few times recently, your responding with a neg back to him as I just did, little affect it has when we have not been here as long to build something up. I saw a post from a couple of years ago where he and another member with a lot of points were attacking Jerry of LaserBee, consistently negging him round after round to take his points down, while only giving positive reps to dead accounts to allow him to make another attack on the guy and not letting anyone else who is active build their reps.

Here's how the rep system works, you can only rep 10 times a day and it takes two days of using up all 10 reps before you can rep someone again, needing to rep 20 times before you can come around and give another rep, whether positive or negative.. That is why he was repping dead accounts, so he wouldn't build anyone else up and still be able to attack Jerry every two days.

What is wrong with this guy he is so self centered and willing to strip members of their reps when he is upset? Vindictive ***. Well, I was just that, I became vindictive today and took away one single point for the four he took from me, stupid, I should have been above it. I suppose I deserve it for allowing myself to be trolled as well as negging another member today too, unhappy as I am with this crap, becoming what I disdain!

Both Cyparagon and I failed today, neither observing this golden rule I love so much I put it in my signature:

Quote:
 It's not so much about what happens to us, but how we deal with it. Be the change in the world you want to see, liberation is ours if we choose to live it. https://youtu.be/YGjqqjA3nP8
Cyp, my critical thinking ready to neg. LPF buddy, is this what you want? You want to swap negs back and forth? I apologize for negging you back, I should have just let you be, I won't get into a tit for tat negging war with you, as you suggested you would do to VG in that neg you gave him with the warning you would be happy to keep negging him over and over again if he wanted a war with you, as you did to Jerry to the point he left. Here's my response to this kind of thing: If I ever see you neg anyone in this forum again, I will be sure to give them as many positive reps back as you took away, in time. I'm still putting back what you took away from VisibleGreen.
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http://www.lexellaser.com/techinfo_wavelengths.htm

Laser Safety:
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
http://www.1728.org/angsize.htm

Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

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