Just witnessed this on TV here in Korea

Seoul_lasers · Apr 14, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPaOwXSZwU

I have seen this kind of abuse in public here in Korea before, and also at school....

Warning the language being used, although some here can't understand it is EXTREMELY RUDE. Warning...

Synopus, Woman who has mental issues in the Shin-bundang line is smoking and drinking inside a subway car. Both of these are illegal in the Subway. Woman throws beer and calls him a F^cker or equivalent... old man hands rude woman her ass.

Problem is the old man could have killed the woman by slamming her head into seat like that. Man was never charged for assault.

Reactions...

Korean society really irks me, and this story definitely irritates me both ways.
My Korean wife is absolutely horrified at this story. What bothers me is not just the lady's actions but the societies view of the violence against the Woman. You can clearly see no-one cared enough to do anything but be passive. Sad state of affairs here...

RyanElectro · Apr 14, 2012

woah.... you would never see something like this in Canada...

unless it's Toronto.

hahahaha

daguin · Apr 14, 2012

So what do you think SHOULD have happened?

Peace,
dave

Seoul_lasers · Apr 14, 2012

I think the rude woman deserved some of it, but I am pretty shocked that there were onlookers who didn't even try to help calm the 2 of them down.
Pretty sad situation if you ask me.

Obviously this lady in the video is in need of some serious intervention... I ain't talking about the devine type either.

daguin · Apr 14, 2012

It would appear that she did indeed get some serious intervention
It arrived in the form of the man who confronted her

Maybe I should have made it even more personal
by asking "What would you have done?"

The problem is illustrated in your response to my question
When confronted with such situations most people have no idea what "should" be done
"Normal" people are not trained in how to handle situations such as this
Without knowing what to do and being afraid of making the problem worse (for themselves as well)
Most people are left with just standing by and watching

Do not judge the "watchers" too harshly
They are completely outside of their knowledge base in situations like this

Peace,
dave

bloompyle · Apr 14, 2012

The thing is, I won't argue against this. Yeah, in AMERICA, or CANADA, this wouldn't happen. Or if it did there'd be a media explosion and people would want the guy's head. In Asia however, you listen to your elders, or THIS happens. I'm sorry, but it
s their way of life, elder's demand more respect than our president, and you damn well better give it to them. In America you see parents and students getting up and screaming and threatening board members during school board meetings, and it does nothing but get an apology from the members. Like we're better than them, and they owe us something. However recently in Japan, after a failed safety protocol during the tsunamis (in short, the protocol was to have the kids stand out on a hill, this caused dozens of children to get fatally washed into the sea) a family member, stood up against an elder on the board (already incredibly unheard of) and yelled and screamed at him. This event caused a media outburst. Such a thing would be outrageous under normal circumstances. The board members didn't know how to react, they just repeatedly bowed and sat in shock.

So, what I'm trying to say, is that this is not unusual. It may seem that way to those who don't understand Asian culture, but there is nothing strange about this. Notice the rest of the people on the bus just sitting there? The only reason the one guy moved was because it got close to him. He just moved, then reopened the paper and went back to reading. They all agreed that she deserved it because she retaliated rather than sitting and shutting up and doing what she was told.

lman · Apr 14, 2012

glad i don't live there.......

RyanElectro · Apr 14, 2012

bloompyle said:
The thing is, I won't argue against this. Yeah, in AMERICA, or CANADA, this wouldn't happen. Or if it did there'd be a media explosion and people would want the guy's head. In Asia however, you listen to your elders, or THIS happens. I'm sorry, but it
s their way of life, elder's demand more respect than our president, and you damn well better give it to them. In America you see parents and students getting up and screaming and threatening board members during school board meetings, and it does nothing but get an apology from the members. Like we're better than them, and they owe us something. However recently in Japan, after a failed safety protocol during the tsunamis (in short, the protocol was to have the kids stand out on a hill, this caused dozens of children to get fatally washed into the sea) a family member, stood up against an elder on the board (already incredibly unheard of) and yelled and screamed at him. This event caused a media outburst. Such a thing would be outrageous under normal circumstances. The board members didn't know how to react, they just repeatedly bowed and sat in shock.

So, what I'm trying to say, is that this is not unusual. It may seem that way to those who don't understand Asian culture, but there is nothing strange about this. Notice the rest of the people on the bus just sitting there? The only reason the one guy moved was because it got close to him. He just moved, then reopened the paper and went back to reading. They all agreed that she deserved it because she retaliated rather than sitting and shutting up and doing what she was told.

I'm Eurasian and I'm not even that knowledgeable about Asian culture as you are, you do sound like my Chinese dad

"Respect your elders kid!" haha

bloompyle · Apr 14, 2012

RyanElectro said:
I'm Eurasian and I'm not even that knowledgeable about Asian culture as you are, you do sound like my Chinese dad "Respect your elders kid!" haha

It's one of those things that comes from a dad who's been stationed there, and my girlfriend who's been studying Asian culture for 5 years and has been there a few times for months on end.

Also, not only was he just stationed there, he was a Korean linguist for a few years. That causes you to learn culture, total immersion into their way of life. He was just telling me that a "Lieutenant in Korea can beat the hell out of an enlisted individual if he catches him doing wrong"

DTR · Apr 14, 2012

Seoul_lasers said:
I think the rude woman deserved some of it.

Nobody deserves to be beaten like that. She could have ended up dead from being thrown like that. If she got in his face and assaulted him first she should be arrested for it not given a possible life threatening concussion. Meet aggression with logic not more aggression. They both should have been arrested with aggravated assault.:beer:

daguin · Apr 14, 2012

DTR said:
Nobody deserves to be beaten like that. She could have ended up dead from being thrown like that. If she got in his face and assaulted him first she should be arrested for it not given a possible life threatening concussion. Meet aggression with logic not more aggression. They both should have been arrested with aggravated assault.:beer:

Different house = different rules

Peace,
dave

DTR · Apr 14, 2012

daguin said:
Different house = different rules

Peace,
dave

It is true and very sad. I just don't understand how someone can loose their life just for being an ass and that is considered acceptable to some cultures.:undecided:

Ghostchrome · Apr 14, 2012

Well, I don't agree with the slapping and all that...

BUT... That chick took off her shoe and was clearing going to come at the guy and use it as a weapon. If someone came at me in the subway like that, I'd put their f^ucking head through that gd window.

Just sayin'.

JLSE · Apr 14, 2012

RyanElectro said:
woah.... you would never see something like this in Canada...

unless it's Toronto.

hahahaha

Why Toronto?? :thinking:

We beat the wife beaters here

"For years, Alberta has boasted the dubious distinction of the highest recorded
rate of domestic violence in the nation, while Calgary has the second-highest rate
for major Canadian cities -- a title which it doesn't appear to be poised to shake. "

Alberta abuse rates highest - Canada - Canoe.ca

DTR · Apr 14, 2012

Ghostchrome said:
Well, I don't agree with the slapping and all that...

BUT... That chick took off her shoe and was clearing going to come at the guy and use it as a weapon. If someone came at me in the subway like that, I'd put their f^ucking head through that gd window.

Just sayin'.

I will agree is some crazy chick came at me trying to stab me with the tip of her high heels I would do the same but watching the video that is not where it started. He had already gotten physical with her. It does look like she was somewhat aggressive from the beginning but it is not 100% clear exactly where it started or what was said.

RyanElectro · Apr 14, 2012

wannaburn said:
Why Toronto?? :thinking:

We beat the wife beaters here

"For years, Alberta has boasted the dubious distinction of the highest recorded
rate of domestic violence in the nation, while Calgary has the second-highest rate
for major Canadian cities -- a title which it doesn't appear to be poised to shake. "

Alberta abuse rates highest - Canada - Canoe.ca

Haha Toronto because the most random things happen there: 3 years ago in my High School years, I participated in a "Weed March" where thousands go downtown to "protest" but really it's just an excuse to hang out in Queens Park and smoke up without getting arrested. My good ole hippie buddies of mine and I walked around with their bongs out, taking pictures with cops. Good times... until I went to university and those hippies just kinda... drifted away.

They were good-hearted people...

But damn, those farmers sure do get mad in their free time! :na:

Just witnessed this on TV here in Korea

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