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Old 01-11-2016, 05:21 PM #1233
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Well, along those lines of thought, it's also worth considering that we're now exposed to quite a bit more electromagnetic radiation than ever in history, or our evolution.

Wifi, 4g, 3g, bluetooth, other signals, and that's just at home... how much we're exposed to outside, is not really quantifiable. Neither is all this exposure harmless.


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I wholeheartedly agree with this, but for the time being it looks like this tech is going to stay, so shielding could be useful, plus it would block background radiation. Even if they could see that there's something blocking the scanner, they would have to get a warrant before they could do any further investigating.

I agree that the government should NOT be scanning our houses or vehicles in the first place, nor should they be doing a number of other things that they are doing. But they have found loopholes that make it legal, and will continue to exploit them until there is enough of a public outrage to make them stop. This is highly unfortunate, though it is what it is, and I'm all for rendering this tech useless.
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They are doing more than finding loopholes, they outright break the law and municipal and county and state police don't even care about the law, they do what ever they want and no one does anything to stop them!

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Not to mention they put the loopholes in there to begin with on purpose, and change the laws after the fact, if they go counter to what they wish to do.
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The tax code has something like 80,000 pages. The laws are unreadable. Many are also independent of right and wrong or any moral foundation. In many states it is illegal to drive without a seat belt, but perfectly legal to wrap YOURSELF around a thousand pound steel motorcycle and drive 70MPH down the road. This is absurd. It is a money generator and the product of low intelligence busy bodies that feel they have the right to control your life.

Gun free zones are a similar stupidity. Most of these mass shootings are occurring in these "safe zones". The problem with the social safety net is it allows morons that could not feed themselves to survive into adulthood and mess up society.

It is important to stop being polite. We who were brought up well, in good homes, were taught to respect other points of view and avoid conflict when this may cause social unrest. This does not work in a society run by jackals. You have no obligation to show respect when you do not receive it in return.

I believe that western civilization is at a turning point. "Beware the anger of a patient man". The rage I hear at work and around town from individuals that would never have struck anyone as politically active or possessed with aggressive tendencies is unsettling.
The surveillance state is the government's response to the increasing threat TO IT from an angry populace. But this is a dangerous tact. It validates the public's fear and anger at their government and increases the probability that when this ends, it will end badly...violently. Gun control is just another angle on populace control and would almost certainly be the straw that breaks...well you know.
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Something like this turns into a law that makes everyone guilty of something always.

I read there is still a law on the books that states: When entering the city limits of Atlanta in a horseless carriage one must stop and sound their horn to be escorted by police before entering the city.

New laws are written every day, but old ones just pile up, it's insanity.
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In Alaska, for the most part, I think our cops are fairly good, but I know how corrupt they can be in many other states, too many of them are not our friends, they would just as soon cite you, lock you up and prosecute you to use their power over others than just leave people alone. Yes, we are in a police State, the government considers anyone who stocks up on food and weapons terrorists in the waiting, when the reality is, our government is out of our control and more of a terrorist than the people themselves. Just saying this is the reality is enough to put me on a list, I am sure.
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We are already seeing a nation divided, many states are ignoring federal laws and some are passing state laws in contrast to federal.
Luckily I am in a stand your ground state and we also have castle doctrine, but the young low income kids are killing each other from what my police friends tell me.
Cops around here are much more respectful than when I was in California, but people here will push back when stepped on and nothing is really getting better, there are small victories but 2016 is a pivotal year, we are on the preface of exploding government overreach, I hope Trump can and will put some common sense Constitution first corrections in place, but we will see.

Luck favors the prepared and sadly we need to do it and be quiet about it unless you live in a very like minded community somewhere in the mountains, I want to buy property at the base of the Blue ridge mountains at the top of Georgia, but I have too many other struggles right now, we may do a family property with several houses but it's not happening fast enough, with Iran and North Korea going hot and the inflow of potentially radical immigrants we are getting I want to move away from major cities.
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In my case, I look at the world and the direction we are going and the only thing which keeps me sane is to know this insanity can't follow me into the grave.
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I'm 99.9999999% sure that there is nothing to worry about after our deaths, but no person alive can be 100% certain, yes based on all known facts one can lay out a very good case, but not every thing has been explained, not every theory has been correct, the big bang theory I think is wrong, scientist just extrapolate backwards to a tiny point, they can not be 100% certain, after all it is the big bang theory, I think it's wrong, but it really does not matter, I am 99.9999999% sure.
p.s. It could have all expanded from one point, but not as small as they think, even black holes have jets. How could everything be in a pinhead, how could it ever get that gravity dense?



Pulsars are the sterilizing guns of space. It's amazing to think of the power we have yet to unlock, one day man portable direct energy could produce god like destruction, and knowing man we will harness great powers of destruction before powers of creation excepting that we will have created the implement of destruction, but it is a necessary evil until we evolve into beings we would not recognize as todays humanity. " My opinion"
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:shrug: Haven't ever raped or pillaged, or murdered, so I think I'll be ok.
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Please dont sully this thread with such nonsense. There is already an awesome thread dedicated to discussing conjecture, mythology, and fairy tails.
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