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The mother is no saint, did drive off, and the kid did push the cop, but that does not justify opening up on a freaking minivan pulling away.

I also question why a supposedly trained cop needs a taser to deal with a 14 year old?

Cops should be held to account for having hair trigger reactions - I sincerely hope a lawyer picks up her case to sue the cops.


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The mother is no saint, did drive off, and the kid did push the cop, but that does not justify opening up on a freaking minivan pulling away.

I also question why a supposedly trained cop needs a taser to deal with a 14 year old?

Cops should be held to account for having hair trigger reactions - I sincerely hope a lawyer picks up her case to sue the cops.
I don't know too much about this topic. But my question is, if this happened to you why wouldn't you sue? I know obviously some people do sue, but if something like this happened to me you better believe I would sue.
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I don't know too much about this topic. But my question is, if this happened to you why wouldn't you sue? I know obviously some people do sue, but if something like this happened to me you better believe I would sue.
The police department, and crony DA may threaten both the mother and kid with more severe charges if they choose to sue. For example they may threaten to take her kids away, and put him away into juvie for a few years.

On the flip side, I wouldn't be surprised if they are offered slap on the wrist kind of penalties in return for not suing, or as part of a small settlement.
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The police department, and crony DA may threaten both the mother and kid with more severe charges if they choose to sue. For example they may threaten to take her kids away, and put him away into juvie for a few years.

On the flip side, I wouldn't be surprised if they are offered slap on the wrist kind of penalties in return for not suing, or as part of a small settlement.
Some kind of deal being struck makes more sense. Unfortunately the Law has more leverage here.

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....Neal has been placed on administrative leave with pay, in accordance with department protocol. If indicted, the pay would cease. He was released from custody Saturday morning at 7:25 a.m.
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This is great, but I'm concerned it will not go anywhere. I hope it does though, and body worn, always on cameras will be on cops all the time, taping.

The evidence will magically disappear in all cases where it does not support the cops narrative.

The camera will be turned away "accidentally" or not activated for whatever reason, or "malfunction". Never mind that these things are actually extremely well made.

It would be a huge help to a lot of people to be able to show in court to a jury, or grand jury, just how cops behave.

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This is great, but I'm concerned it will not go anywhere. I hope it does though, and body worn, always on cameras will be on cops all the time, taping.

The evidence will magically disappear in all cases where it does not support the cops narrative.

The camera will be turned away "accidentally" or not activated for whatever reason, or "malfunction". Never mind that these things are actually extremely well made.

It would be a huge help to a lot of people to be able to show in court to a jury, or grand jury, just how cops behave.
Infinitus you are completely correct and I am amazed at how everyone including most of the press closes their eyes to these things. The rest of you need to get your heads out of the sand and look at what is happening around you. We are living in a police state and there will be further militarization of the police, drones, random checkpoints on roads, and TSA in train and bus stations and other places. The police can do whatever they want, the law no longer matters, and why do municipal police departments need military grade helicopters and armored vehicles and drones? The US is quickly becoming like the former Soviet Union and I fear the country is finished. I believe we are already past the point of no return. Perhaps Infinitus is more aware of this because he lives in the part of the US with the most oppressive state and local governments, but rest assured these things are coming to your town and your neighborhood soon. I hope your ready for it.

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The one bit of solace I take from all this, is at the end of the day, there is still only one cop for every ~390 people. Take away women, children, the elderly, the sick, and the odds are still not in their favor. Not even close to it.

This is something I hope officer friendly keeps in mind.

This is why I'm vehemently opposed to any reduction in people being allowed to own whatever they can afford to buy.
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I plan on having a 50 BMG in my house within the next few months. API rounds are about the same price as plain ball rounds. Maybe it would be a good idea to stock up on those.
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Infinitus you are completely correct and I am amazed at how everyone including most of the press closes their eyes to these things. The rest of you need to get your heads out of the sand and look at what is happening around you. We are living in a police state and there will be further militarization of the police, drones, random checkpoints on roads, and TSA in train and bus stations and other places. The police can do whatever they want, the law no longer matters, and why do municipal police departments need military grade helicopters and armored vehicles and drones? The US is quickly becoming like the former Soviet Union and I fear the country is finished. I believe we are already past the point of no return. Perhaps Infinitus is more aware of this because he lives in the part of the US with the most oppressive state and local governments, but rest assured these things are coming to your town and your neighborhood soon. I hope your ready for it.

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Totally correct, it's scary to see the things that are going on. Whenever I try to explain anything like this to people they think I'm crazy. I don't see how other people don't see what's happening. My guess is that they are brainwashed by media and such. It's sad thinking about the reality of what is going on. I try to just take my mind off it and think about something else instead. In reality I am just hiding from the truth by not thinking about it. I think things could get a little bit better at least, if Jesse Ventura gets elected in 2016. But, that won't happen because voting is probably rigged anyways.
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But, that won't happen because voting is probably rigged anyways.
Not in the sense that you think. You'll be allowed to pick.

The trick is, it doesn't really matter who you pick. Not when you have a two party system, and gerrymandering.
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The mother drove off because she had 2 pot pipes in the Minivan. Her and the 14 yr old were arrested. Still think it was a bad call for the woman to drive off. The son also did push the officer. Cops have a hair trigger these days. Just comply, not worth getting shot.

5 kids in the car btw.

Doubt there will be much punishment for the officers here.

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I keep seeing more and more parts to the video ,the son could have been shot buy the police they did not know he was 14, he was a tall as the officer .Why would a mom do that to her children ? My dad was a cop and my best friend is ,some people do not know what cops/officer have to go through, I have seen video were the cop gets shot in the back from someone get out of car just like the boy did. Shooting at the minivan! I would hope it was at the tire .If not he needs to put under the jail ,what if she drove off and hit a bus full of kids going to a football game and your kid was on the bus then you would have hoped the officer hit the tire. a lot went wrong and it all started with the lady getting out of the van and try to drive off. I do see a lot that could have been done better! If a cop does you wrong you can file a formal complaint it will go on his record and the officer will be looked in to!

(from Pi R Squared We are living in a police state and there will be further militarization of the police, drones, random checkpoints on roads, and TSA in train and bus stations and other places. The police can do whatever they want) to stop this get people off there a-s and vote!
There are 2 sides to all stories. I just ask all to look at both side put yourself in the officers shoes. Not all cops are bad, some news people try to make a story by show parts of a video to make the news look more to one side. You see what the new what you to see! We all need to keep an open mind to both sides to a story! There was wrong on both side of this story!
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I plan on having a 50 BMG in my house within the next few months. API rounds are about the same price as plain ball rounds. Maybe it would be a good idea to stock up on those.
Probably. Generally with guns it's always a good idea to buy what's most likely to be banned first. Even if it never gets banned you still get some cool toys to enjoy.
This site has lots of decent .50 ammo and plain projectiles if you're into reloading.
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^I found a place with cheaper ammo.

It looks like I'll be able to get a Barrett 99 in FDE with scope and rings for 5,200 after tax at a local gun shop. I'm still looking around for the best price. That price is still lower than MSRP so I can't complain to much. The scope is 1,200 by itself. The base kit comes with a Pelican case and bipod. Once you add those to the cost of the AR-50, the price is about the same unless you skimp.

I went to an indoor range yesterday with someone I work with and his son-in-law. One of the other guns he brought was a 454 Casull revolver with a 7" barrel. Holy ****! That thing was insane. You don't want to shoot very many rounds each time you take it to the range. It's not a 50 AE Desert Eagle but your wrist will hate you if you shoot it too much.
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