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Old 11-15-2013, 11:15 PM #785
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I lived in Japan for several years. I didn't live in fear, in fact I had to COMPLETELY chance my mentality when I came back to America. I didn't have to worry about walking at night alone, or being in the "wrong place" They don't allow guns in Japan. The police carry extendable rods that are simply terrifying. But you know what, I didn't feel like I needed a weapon to protect me. It's a different culture. I'm not saying crime doesn't happen, but it certainly wasn't at the rate that it happens here. In the last 8 months my house has been broken into 3 times...

After coming back I had the fear of other Americans. We are a violent society. I see both sides to the gun debate. Sure we "need" our guns to protect us from our own government. But in other countries they trust their governments much more than we do.
It might help if there weren't so many horror stories involving our government or law enforcement lately. If people truly thought that the govt had our best interests in mind they might not feel such a need to hoard tactical weapons for some future 'civil war' or whatever.


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Or consume dairy products? Or use shampoo? Or use medicine?

Is there a difference in killing something directly, versus by proxy, via paying for the end results of the death of an animal?

(Vegans hate me btw - all two of them that brought up the subject to begin with )
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I think there is a difference; the average person living in an urban center would likely not eat meat if they had to source it themselves.

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I think there is a difference; the average person living in an urban center would likely not eat meat if they had to source it themselves.
I think the average person should be forced to take a tour of a slaughterhouse...

For the most part I think hunters are kinder, and care far more about the animals they kill.
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I think the average person should be forced to take a tour of a slaughterhouse...

For the most part I think hunters are kinder, and care far more about the animals they kill.
You have to love the animal you kill. That's why I hunt the most loved animal of all... house cats.


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For the most part I think hunters are kinder, and care far more about the animals they kill.
With hunting you're eating something that lived and died with dignity. With slaughterhouse meat you're eating something which was raised in hellish conditions and pumped full of chemicals, antibiotics and hormones.
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I dont think most people realize how much better meat is when you raise the cow and slaughter it yourself, or when you shoot a deer and skin it and make your own deer jercky and steaks. So much more fresh and lean. When you raise a cow you know exactly what goes into it, and you know that care was taken to keep the meat clean and uncontaminated when slaughtering it. Plus its cheaper, especially if you split a cow with people (a whole cow is A LOT of meat).
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I don't think I could eat any animal I raised. My grandfather had cows as pets. They had names and we'd give the calves names.
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I guess the way you were raised has a lot to do with it. When I was a young kid we had cows and I named them, but we still slaughtered them and I dont remember it being a big deal. I also grew up around a lot of guns, and in an area where everyone has guns so that definitely had a lot to do with my stance on gun rights now.
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Hmm... Hard call. Don't run from Police

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Unbelievable.

There was absolutely no justification for that bastard to start shooting. None

The minivan was moving AWAY from him. There was no imminent threat.

That cop should be charged just as anyone would be for opening fire on a bunch of kids.

Seems like New Mexico police are in the news quite often. I'm surprised the dash cam videos weren't "misplaced".

I guess this is what happens when cops run out of criminals to chase, turn into city revenue generators instead. I hope the pathetic excuse of a cop who had to resort to using a taser on a 14 year old also ends up in prison, although that's not likely to happen.
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The mother drove off because she had 2 pot pipes in the Minivan. Her and the 14 yr old were arrested. Still think it was a bad call for the woman to drive off. The son also did push the officer. Cops have a hair trigger these days. Just comply, not worth getting shot.

5 kids in the car btw.

Doubt there will be much punishment for the officers here.

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