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Old 09-20-2013, 08:22 PM #673
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Shooting in Chicago.

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This is coming from the same city that recently got the Honorific of Murder capital, and has some of the most restrictive gun laws in nation.

Clearly the gun bans are working out very well there.
Apparently it was some kind of 7.62mm AK that the perps used. Probably spraying rounds randomly and that's why nobody died. Of course Chicago will probably try and blame the guns and not their gang war problems.


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There are btw all kinds of ways to wear the camera, so the rationale that it it will fall off, or gets in the way, is complete BS. Let's not forget your average cop carries around a TON of gear already. Another .5lb makes little difference.

There is also absolutely no reason why the cameras can't run continuously even for extra long shifts lasting days.

Nor is there ANY reason for there not already being a mandate for at least audio recording all interactions.

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Cops against the second amendment, and violating free speech.

Why am I not surprised.

Hopefully the man has the grounds for a lawsuit to get a nice sum from that department. Maybe enough to put a few of those cops on unemployment.
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great vid, lolol

Good stuff starts ~5 mins into it.

Yes, if we could just get all the people selling guns illegally to just do background checks first, it would be much safer place!
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Just watch the pot smoking liberals talk about how owning Full-Automatics and guns is bad.

We need guns to help defeat our enemies in case some sh*t broke loose. Liberals, go away..
Leave the pot smokers out of this lol.
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Stop thinking in terms of liberal vs conservative. Stop thinking in terms of republican vs democrat.

Start thinking of them instead as what they are - PEOPLE. Understand what people want, and you understand why they act in the way that they do.
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Start thinking of them instead as what they are - PEOPLE. Understand what people want, and you understand why they act in the way that they do.
Well said. The true enemies in this aren't necessarily the pot-smoking hippies or liberals or w/e. The enemies are Statists, Elitist megalomaniacs like bloomberg and Feinstein who think they know what's best for the population and progressives who want us to be "more like those civilized European countries." For their plans to work we can't have an armed citizenry running around with big guns like it's the wild wild west. Being armed means that you actually have a little bit of control over your own destiny. You have the ability to fight against oppression, defend yourself from criminals without the help of the state and you have the ability to fight for what you believe in rather than just submitting to whatever those in power want. In a Statist's dream world of total government control it just doesn't work out having an armed population where individuals are capable of resisting against things which are for the 'greater good of the collective'. Trust me when I say that their goal isn't just to ban those scary assault weapons. Their goal is to ultimately ban everything with even a hint of combat utility. Some people such as Feinstein have even gone on record saying that they'd confiscate ALL guns if they could do it. THESE types of people are your enemies and it's important to understand their motives and tactics.

The people who enable these megalomaniacs are what I simply refer to as sheeple. They're the largely ignorant, emotion driven and generally low information voting base used the politicians to achieve their agenda. It's incredibly easy to make someone fear something which they don't understand through misinformation, fear mongering and perception management campaigns.

Throughout history there have been numerous examples of this. One of the more notable was the Reefer Madness campaign. Most of the American public knew very little about cannabis at the time and as a result it was extremely easy for those in power to make them think it was absolutely evil. The blacks and mexicans liked it and it would make your teen daughters go nuts and sleep with the colored people!!! Movies, posters, propaganda and complete lies were all used to demonize the plant until they public was convinced and it was banned by federal law. Who started all this? A corporation who had recently invested a large amount into a new paper making process and didn't want the competition from hemp products. They got together with other like-minded people and those who just wanted an excuse to crack down on the disliked mexicans and blacks and that's how the campaign began. Now over 80 years later despite the FACTS being readily available and the damage done to our nation we're just beginning to see the undoing of cannabis prohibition.

See any parallels between reefer madness and the push to ban "SCARY LOOKING" assault weapons for the children? While there were different motivations behind these campaigns the methods have been eerily similar. Our politicians know that most FUDD gun owners and hunters don't see any need for assault weapons and with the proper impetus of misinformation they can be convinced to ban them for the greater good. Non gun owners are even easier to exploit. Many of these people grew up in a quite suburb somewhere or in a big city and have never shot a gun in their lives. Some are even truly afraid of guns or know people who died in inner city gun violence. Getting these people to vote to ban those "evil looking baby killing assault rifles' is like taking candy from a baby.

What can you do to stop the madness? Be politically active and do your best to educate the uninformed whenever you can. Whether it be through online forums, news sites, or in the break room at work. Demand accountability from politicians and actively call them out wherever possible on their lies and hypocrisy. Introduce new people to firearms and offer to take them to the range or something so you can show them how it's a generally safe and responsible hobby and that shooting can be fun. Don't start off with self-defense or how we should own guns in case we need to fight back against tyrannical government. Stuff like that can come later.
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you guys hear about this?: WAVY - Has zero tolerance gone too far | WAVY.com | Virginia Beach

Started because someone called 911.

"If you see something, say something" reminds me of 1984, where you don't trust anybody, even if you grew up with them, because they'll turn you in at the drop of a hat.



People want power. Give the people what they want, and they'll give you power. How do you know what they want? Tell them what they want while they're young, and don't teach them to think. Just accept all as truth. Your government won't lie to you, I promise. Show them by turning their parents into examples. You don't need to work hard in life to succeed; you just need to have your hand out when uncle sam comes walking by. Who you gonna vote for? The guy who gave you food stamps and ebt cards, so that you can spend your actual income on things like cars, jewelry, drugs, anything that isn't meant for your family or kids. Because you worked hard for that money, your family and children don't deserve that money, it's not your job to take care of them. Oh, what, you can't call your dealer? You don't have a phone? Don't worry, we got you covered. Sure, most responsible people pay for their phones, but here, have one for free.

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