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Old 08-29-2013, 07:19 PM #625
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Hmm... I wonder if that would affect Entities like Blackwater USA/Blackwater Worldwide/Xe Services LLC/Academi... or whatever they are named now A bit off topic but they have a battleship btw

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I'm sure the new policy will exclude government affiliated contractors.
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Here in Belgium or any EU country people aren't allowed to buy fire arms. Not freely and you need to have a permission for fire arms.
Airguns are free to buy so I am interested in buying an air rifle like the Weihrauch 97K.
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Disarming Realities: As Gun Sales Soar, Gun Crimes Plummet - Forbes

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10 round clip capacity? Unbelievable. I know it's to keep less bullets in the gun of a "thug" but it also puts less bullets in the gun of someone protecting themselves from said thug. This is getting ridiculous. If they take our guns, then they have taken our protection. If they took our guns and then the US becomes under attack or is somehow taken over, then we won't be able to help out. It's just stupid
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that's... pretty dramatic. yup colorado just limited everybody to 15. I guess our representatives think we are sleeping more soundly now.

We're not. WTF difference does it really make if you have 15 rounds instead of 20? besides, someone committing a crime with a gun likely won't obey magazine restrictions anyway
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I am sure you guys have heard about what going on in MD on October 1st. SB 281 will go in to effect banning many weapons and lowering our mag capacity to 10 rounds, we will also need finger printing and take a class to purchase a regulated firearm (which we will have to pay for). There is other stuff on there but its really a bunch of BS. Well since they gave everyone until OCT. 1 2013 to buy as many AR's, AK's, and any "scary" looking gun, there has been a huge surge in applications (I waited 85 days for my AR15 application to process). Well I just got this email from Maryland Shall Issue (I am a member).


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On Friday night it was reported by the Associated Gun Clubs that Governor O'Malley had ordered the Maryland State Police to bring in personnel from the following agencies to help with parts of the background check process required in the Maryland form 77r (Authorization for Release of Information to Purchase a Regulated Firearm):

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• Correctional Services of Department of General Services

On Saturday this information was confirmed by Senator Nancy Jacobs and Delegate Mike Smigiel.

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This is in direct violation of the Maryland Code of Regulations (COMAR)which specifically states the MSP may only use personnel from other police agencies as part of their investigation.

This regulation is due in part to the extremely sensitive nature of the information Maryland citizens are forced to provide the MSP as part of the background check process.

Other than a reported confidentiality agreement, there appears to be no effort to investigate the possible criminal backgrounds of these employees.

Many of these agencies, the Department of Corrections in particular, have been in the press lately for links with criminal organizations, and now the governor has handed them a shopping list with resident's name, address, date and place of birth, social security number as well as information on the firearm the applicant intends to purchase for over 38 thousand Maryland citizens who are waiting for the MSP to complete their background checks to purchase a firearm. This has the potential to be a one stop shopping list for identity and firearms theft.

MSP has put out a press release to assure you that since all of these temporary employees have promised not to share your information that you have nothing to worry about.

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As you are aware, the Maryland State Police have enlisted the help of multiple non-MSP agencies and tasked up to 200 employees with entering Personal Identifying Information (PII) for the MSP in order to reduce the current backlog. In their Press Release, the MSP assured us that the information was secure and that we have nothing to worry about

MSI has spoken to multiple sources within these agencies and confirmed that this is not the case. There are serious concerns and issues that need to be addressed.
Employees are accessing a searchable database of 77R forms.
The web portal to that database is insecure, does not use SSL, has an expired security certificate and is accessible from anywhere on the Internet. It is not contained within Maryland Government networks.
All of the employees were given the same login and password.
The database is searchable. You can search by name and even enter partial searches.

From what we understand, the original 77R’s have been scanned in .TIF format and placed on encrypted disks. The employees are accessing the data from the disk and entering it through the insecure web portal.

However, since they all use the same login, it will be virtually impossible to know who accessed what information and when. It also means that if the login information is shared with an outside source, the MSP would have no way of tracking down the source of the leak and enforcing their “confidentiality agreement.”

This information is accessible from anywhere if you have the login information. You can even access it from a smartphone.

Martin O'Malley and the Maryland General Assembly spoke at length about how they want to make Maryland safer through strict gun control. It is UNFATHOMABLE that people who claim to be proponents of making our state safer could allow such a grievous breach of security. Not only did MSP allow unauthorized persons to view and input this information, they now are allowing it to be transmitted online without any encryption into a database where everyone shares the same account.

Understand in very simple terms: Your recent order with Amazon.com is FAR more secure than your personal identifying information with the Maryland State Police.

As of right now MSI is working with some of our 2A friendly delegates to find out these answers but we believe that you should know exactly what is going on at this moment.

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I think there are several core problems, and gun control is only a symptom, but not the cancer, the source, that's slowly, but persistently eating away at the society we were brought up for, and taught to expect.

The problems is we have politicians who are absolutely, 100% not the least bit concerned about their constituents, and the promises they make. These politicians in turn set up bureaucrats who are completely beyond any checks and balances on their actions.

For as long as there is no transparency to the actions of government, whether it be at the local, county, state or federal levels, the problems will continue to accrue until a breaking point is reached.

On a down to earth level, unfortunately the biggest problem gun owners have, is that they face a populace which does not consist of gun owners, and is misinformed. That same populace for the most part also just doesn't care, and just wants to be left alone.

It's the same populace that's pro gun control because they don't want another mass shooting. It's the same populace that's shown several news stories a day about shootings, and it's the same populace that just wants to feel safe.

Unfortunately what that populace doesn't know, (although for the moment at least, it's perfectly, and easily accessible information) is that crime is actually down.

Gun crime is down. Violent crime is down. In fact it has been trending down for over two decades now, and the odds of being subjected to bodily harm nowadays are significantly lower than they were 20 years ago.

To go back to your problem with getting the permits... consider yourself extremely lucky that anything is being done. I deal with government bureaucrats on a daily basis, and the fact of the matter is it's absolutely incredible that there are not more security breaches, or that anything gets done at all.

I also wouldn't worry too much about your information being stolen... anyone who is specifically targeted... unless you've been living in the stone age, getting paid cash, and not reporting income, your information is not safe or secure. It's a fact, it's done with, no reason to lose sleep over it.
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This needs to happen more often:

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Two Colorado Democrats who provided crucial support for a slate of tough new gun-control laws were voted out of office on Tuesday in a recall vote widely seen as a test of popular support for gun restrictions after mass shootings in a Colorado movie theater and a Connecticut elementary school.
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This is good news, but it's a hollow victory. The damage is already done.

The problem is, the way voting currently takes place, is painfully slow, and it results in low participation, allowing people who most don't want in power, to remain in power.

Why can you file taxes online, contact anyone you need over the phone, but can't vote in a manner that convenient and expedient?

Imagine if politicians suddenly knew that they aren't safe, and don't have carte blanche once elected? If they knew that a single decision that runs counter to the will of the public will result in them getting quickly booted out of office.

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Old 09-15-2013, 06:10 AM #637
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TEXAS MAN’S PREGNANT WIFE NEVER WANTED TO HAVE A GUN IN THE HOUSE – BUT NOW SHE’S SURE GLAD HE INSISTED

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A Texas man’s pregnant wife made it clear she was against having a firearm in their house. However, the husband insisted she learn how to use a gun to protect herself just in case. In fact, it was just a few months ago that he took her out to teach her the basics.

When the two men realized the woman was armed, they took off towards their truck. Alex’s “adrenaline kicked in” and she shot once at the vehicle. She said she was not aiming to shoot the men, but rather at the truck to both scare the burglars and provide police an identifying marker that might help them track it down.

Palmview Police and SWAT eventually tracked down the suspects, brothers Lucas and Jesus Ortiz, who had barricaded themselves inside a different home. Authorities blocked off the area and negotiated with the two men, ultimately arresting them.

“Palmview Police say Lucas and Jesus Ortiz were high on unknown drugs at the time of the burglary and that they are still not being cooperative with the investigation,”
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I reccomend watching it in full screen HD.


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I like it! Pretty well done and an interesting premise. I like the ending

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