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there are "demonstrations"... and then there are DEMONSTRATIONS.

I get sick and tired of seeing a bunch of people "assembled", and... *yawn* they arent getting their POINT across. The elitist leaders (I am from the United States) look out, make a loud *fart*... and know they have to wait a whole WEEK to do whatever it is the people outside are chanting on and on about. Its a minor inconvenience. They simply reschedule the "screw job" till next week.

Thats a prime example of the sissy-la-la demonstration. You get your permits, you take care to stand inside the painted white lines the police present "helpfully" herd you into. LIke the sheep they really are.

Here in america? We have a LONG history of "proper" demonstrations. The sort of thing that you get HEARD, and instantly. Laws are passed IMMEDIATELY.

Examples? You need t read about our USA "civil rights riots". Not EVERYone laid down on the ground passively for sympathy while the white state police beat them with truncheons. PLENTY of minorities? particularly in the major cities? THEY knew how its done properly.

They rioted. They burned down entore city blocks of skyscrapers. They fired upon the firemen and ambulances responding. This went on simultaneously in Watts, Miami, LA, CHicago...

you know what? They GOT their precious civil rights almost IMMEDIATELY. Not long after? The police in New York had a history of picking up g@y men, beating them, gettign them to inform on other g@y men... it was a "vice squad" thing.

The g@ys and lesbians? "assembled" and UN-peacefully so. They took over the streets in "their" area of the city. They beat up all the policemen they found. They overturned police cars and set them on FIRE and varricaded the streets with the burning police cars.

Within ONE WEEK FLAT? Not waiting for "laws" being passed quickly enough (because the city was beginning to look like it was going thru a can opener, lol) they IMMEDIATELY stated they would ignore all "g@y vice laws" immediately... and bagged for the time to pass the laws officially.

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THATS how its "done" properly. You dont NEED a permit. When 10 thousand people ASSEMBLE, and they have serious or imagined GRIEVANCES, and there are people "working the crowd" with BULLHORNS that know what THEY are doing?

the crowd is worked to a FEVERED pitch... then UNLEASHED.

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the tea party in america? called for 1 million people to assemble in our national capital. Carrying RIFLES most of them, mind you. The NEWS clips downplayed it, and claimed it was "about 10 thousand people, if that"

its not true. I have seen the videos and pictures... you should SEE what one and a half MILLION people LOOK LIKE, assembled. It took ALL DAY for them to march, sidewalk to sidewalkl, past the capitol.

over a MILLION people, most wth rifles. with instructions to be COMPLETELY PEACEABLE (which they were).

What would have heppened, if there were people experienced with BULLHORNS whipping that crowd of people up into a fevered pitch? Then unleashed them at the capitol?

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a mere one thousand people (less actually) shut DOWN my own state capitol a couple years back. Our "fearless leaders" were getting a litle too big for their britches. There was a scandal with "midnight voting" of PAY RAISES for the leaders.

They called them "PIGS", no doubt to reference animal farm, lol... they flew a gigantic inflatable PIG visible for miles around. This comparatively SMALL crowd, had ONE key feature i liked... there were a couple there with BULLHORNS, and they knew how to work the crowd. heh heh heh....

they passed out "wanted posters" of the lawmakers that were in on the midnight pay raise scandal. They got LOUD, and they chased any lawmaker to their CAR in fright... chanting "pork chops... pork chops... pork chops" to any lawmaker on their "wanted list".

my (ex) old lady works in th capitol. i called her, amused by the news reports. She verified it, and said all the big powerful men? The ones with the thousad dollar suits, the big cars? You know... the "powerful" men?

cowering in their offices, afraid to look out the window, because they were on the LIST the people utside had. They were terrified.

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i asked my old lady if she wanted me to come get her at the capitol, and escort her home, after i was done at work. "nope... ia lready been in and out a couple times... i'm not on their silly list. I go out for food and drinks for everyone afraid to leave"

These so-called "powerful" men? SHAMED by a WOMAN.

One of the "powerful men" (on the list, so terrified, lol) was overheard telling the capitol police? "you! Go out there! I have HAD It! Go and revoke their permit! This is OVER with!"

you know what the head of the capitol police said?

he took ONE look at several hundred people getting VERY agitated? and VERY loud? And chanting some VERY nasty things? he turned to the powerful elected leader and simply said...

"Sir? i EALLY dont think thats a very good idea, right this moment.

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I dont know WHAT has been going on in america, the last 40 years or so. Its this new touchy-feely, sissy la-la CRAP of a fad we're on at the moment. This is not our HISTORY.

our history? if we think our leaders are SCREWING US, and dont listen to us? Start to *think* they are some priveleged men of leisure, entitled to millions riding on our BACKS like a bunch of SERFS?

We demonstrate, we riot, we CLASH with teh authorities paid minions... and we REBEL. There have been 50 to 75 "rebellions" local in nature, in americas history. It is AS NOTHING to over run the police barricades, and chase the GOVERNOR HIMSELF out to his island fortress, where he cowered in fear, waiting for reinforcements to arrive and escort his lily gilded @$$ t0 safety.

Shay's Rebellion, i think that one was. One of MANY.

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one day, "they" are going to go ONE step too far. Take away ONE too may freedoms. tax us and fine us and invent ONE too many "fees".

because when a MILLION plus people assemble? And they decide NOT to be peaceful? When they get worked up by experienced hands that know how to WORK a crowd with bullhorns? And someone's b@!!$ drop, and they UNLEASH that worked up frenzied mob?

THAT is freedom. THAT is power. There is NOTHNIG you can DO to stop a million people storming the barricades, and they KNOW it.

Thats the difference between being a "real citizen" who deserves the right to cast a vote... and being a SHEEP, a servant, a slave in all but the name of it.

"The tree of liberty needs, from time to time, fed with the blood of good patriots and tyrants."

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you see, from time to time? Rich fat men here in america, get to *thinking* they are some priveleged ruling class. They think, erroneously, they could do things... like... hire private security forces to beat and shoot striking workers?

big mistake... one fine day, the unions went around and rounded up "ringers". Strong, hardy men, of stout appearance, and stouter constitutions. men with testicular fortitude. They peaceably assembled, and when the corrupt "police" came to beat them and shoot them? UP went all the industrial garage doors, and the RINGERS simply POURED out... clubs in hand, they went thru the corrupt private police forces, used to ganging up 5 on 1 to single men? They beat them en masse to bloody pulps.

They chaed them to their little "station" and stormed it. They completely decimated teh station and all the hired guns who THOUGHT they understood what "power" is, and how to WIELD it effectively.

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the governor had to call in the national guard, to quiet things down.

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THAT is a proper "demostration".

not this sissy la-la crap you describe. Permits? painted lines you have to stay inside?

oh, be CAREFUL not to trample the GRASS or impede the flow o traffic, mind you.

Thats not a demonstration... thats the sound of sheep bleating.
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]the tea party in america? called for 1 million people to assemble in our national capital. Carrying RIFLES most of them, mind you. The NEWS clips downplayed it, and claimed it was "about 10 thousand people, if that"

its not true. I have seen the videos and pictures... you should SEE what one and a half MILLION people LOOK LIKE, assembled. It took ALL DAY for them to march, sidewalk to sidewalkl, past the capitol.

over a MILLION people, most wth rifles. with instructions to be COMPLETELY PEACEABLE (which they were).

What would have heppened, if there were people experienced with BULLHORNS whipping that crowd of people up into a fevered pitch? Then unleashed them at the capitol?
The videos and pictures you saw were more than likely not of that demonstration.

PolitiFact | "Tea party" photo shows huge crowd ? at different event

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I feel so sorry for both the guy, but more so for the kid, that has to live with having killed his father by accident...

Why the hell wasn't the safety on? I mean come on.

Meanwhile, I'm not sure if this belong in this thread but...

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Trevor, "you may be right".

but, would hastenn to add.... the MEDIA downplayed the tea party, said it was marginal at best, it was no real force... blah blah blah...

THEN? The bloodbath in the midterm elections came, and largely from tea party republicans, the house was seized by a large majority. In my OWN STATE? I went to bed living in a democrat-run state... and woke up? To a republican governor, a republican house, and a republican senate!

not to shabby a result, for "about 10 thousand people, maybe less" in a "marginal, at best" group... who have "no chance" of being any kind of a force in politics.

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here in america? We are drowning in DEBT. Drowning n taxes and fees, that keep rising or having new ones invented.

one day, its either going to collapse and our day in the sun is over, or alternately? DEMONSTRATE we the people are sick and tired of it all. Note, i said DEMONSTRATE nor deomnstrate.

when "it" is over? people will argue about how many people were there, and what they did, all they want to... it will still have occurred. Just because the liberal media does not cover it, or cover it properly? Does not mean the tree didnt fall in the forest.

good night and god bless, drink the kool aid if you want to. I know i am lied to by the holy media ALL THE TIME. I dont believe a d@mn thing i read in the papers or see on the television.

Yes, i inherently realize the tea party is probably running out of steam... i cant wait till the NEXT movement comes along and does it again.
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i cant wait till the NEXT movement comes along and does it again.
The next movement will be that of libertarians.

While there is always an undercurrent of discontent, reading everything I read, finding what I can from all kinds of sources. I feel people are becoming more aware, and more fed up day by day.

Maybe our kids, or grandkids will actually look at Obama in a very positive light.

His administration, the administration of "Hope, Change, and Transparency" is the one I feel has finally pulled back the curtain for the average person.

Now people see him, and other politicians, republicans, democrats, talk, but they have no trust in anything said. They no longer believe in the system.

Everyday people are left to feel more and more helpless. More and more cornered.

Stasi germany was a kid's sand castle compared to the apparatus that the US government has built.

The only problem though, is no matter how long it takes. All regimes eventually take a step too far. It's only a question of how long it takes.

I hope that the changes to come will be peaceful. I truly believe that most people are actually inherently good. That said... a violent turn of events would not surprise me. I also may be naive in believing major change can take place without force. One can hope though right?

Btw, the bit about the libertarian movement gaining steam... look at the recent votes on the Amash Amendment. Yes it was defeated. That was a foregone conclusions. What I hope has Obama, Holder, and Alexander sweating at night, are the numbers... 205-217. It was close.

Phone lines lit up. Congressman were yelled at, and told in no uncertain terms which way to vote, or else. And many of them did.

People are fed up of lies, misplaced billions, being watched like sheep, and zero accountability.

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