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Old 06-06-2013, 11:27 AM #465
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The transponder devices used in cars are different. They are in essence a WiFi interface directly into the CanBUS of the vehicles onboard computer network. They are just not on the normal WiFi band. These systems are much more sophisticated than the average RFID device. There are canned responses set up to simplify tracking, such as the generic speed query, but there are advanced capabilities as well. Given enough time at a location in proximity to one of these checkpoints, they can even reflash the firmare of the vehicles ECUs. They will immobilize your vehicle during this procedure of course. This is to ensure future EPA compliance with firmware updates for those that do not bring their vehicles to the dealership for flash updates. That program is not yet in effect from the EPA side of things, but it had been planned and implemented at the vehicle level prior to the design of this system.
I wonder what those other locations are. I don't use the dealer and the only places where my car sits for a long period of time is work and at home.


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Off topic a bit, but just for anyone who believes in the Fairy Tale of privacy...
'Critical tool'? Top lawmakers defend NSA snooping on Verizon phone records - U.S. News

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Anything in the name of preventing terrorism.

Nevermind that far more people die from other causes than have been killed by terrorists.
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...Nevermind that far more people die from other causes than have been killed by terrorists.
Well, according to the CDC...
Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 597,689

Bacon and like Doctor Tony says, broken hearts

Sheesh ShakenAwake, we're not there yet. Mr. Boyce mentioned China earlier, I can confirm that yes China is changing. The number one reason, the internet. Chinese bloggers have been fearlessly going after corrupt officials and with the huge numbers, the Government has no option but to appease the masses or ultimately lose power.

Infinitus has mentioned transparency and the power of forced accountability. I believe there are many who believe in Freedom and the Constitution on the inside. It is not over.

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I think when all is said and done, most people are willing to draw a line in the sand, and most people are certainly for freedom.

More than anything I think Google, through the introduction of Google Glass is shining a light on this subject. (Despite being the company that collects more data than just about anyone else.)

Most business owner don't want glass in their establishments. Most people don't want to be secretly recorded.

What all but one person I talked to didn't realize, is how much they are being tracked and recorded already. That the technology has been around for some time, and they are being tracked and recorded all the time.

The #1 issue with people regarding glass, is "well they have this camera right on their head that can record without me know" except of course you can guy a spycam for under $40.


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... It feels so often like we are past the point of no return. Like the boiled frog (look that up on wikipedia if you aren't familiar with the metaphor).
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Lol, So true. I gained a lot of respect for Google when they fought China tooth and nail over giving up info about dissidents. Google eventually gave in after great pressure, but at their core I'd like to believe that they still hold onto their original ideals. Once enough people are "shaken awake" and embrace the technologies that can provide true transparency and accountability, perhaps we will see real "Change"


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Lol, So true. I gained a lot of respect for Google when they fought China tooth and nail over giving up info about dissidents. Google eventually gave in after great pressure, but at their core I'd like to believe that they still hold onto their original ideals. Once enough people are "shaken awake" and embrace the technologies that can provide true transparency and accountability, perhaps we will see real "Change"


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Yup, I'm no longer naive enough to believe in privacy, but transparency, that's something I think holds hope for us.

I think the company has unfortunately bent to some realities of the business world in getting away from their motto of Do No Evil, but at the same time I feel they have consistently bent over backwards in order to do the right thing, more often than not.

It's google that is really pushing the envelope in terms of the anti copyright movement for example.

It's google publishing data that brings so many issues to light.

They also make no secret of the fact that yes, they do track you.
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Whether the metaphor is true or not isn't as important as the metaphor itself, but yeah, I saw that too. Made me wonder what dickhead biologist actually tried boiling a frog, just to prove a metaphor factually inaccurate. frogs are cool and many species are going extinct. but let's not go there, the thread is semi-derailed enough as is
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LAPD to conduct counterterrorism drill in conjunction with homeland security conference | Fox News



Meanwhile on the other side of the country...

Senate Passes Bill Making the Harassment of a Police Officer a Crime | New York State Senate

“At a time when shocking incidents of disrespect and outright confrontation are at an all-time high, the men and women who patrol the streets of our cities deserve every possible protection we can offer them,” Senator Griffo stated. “My bill would make it a crime to take any type of physical action to try to intimidate a police officer. This is a necessary action because we can see from the rise in incidents that too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for a police officer. We need to make it very clear that when a police officer is performing his duty, every citizen needs to comply and that refusal to comply carries a penalty.

Actual text from the bill;

S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER.
A PERSON IS GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR
PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR ALARM
A PERSON WHOM HE OR SHE KNOWS OR REASONABLY SHOULD KNOW TO BE A POLICE
OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER ENGAGED IN THE COURSE OF PERFORMING HIS OR HER
OFFICIAL DUTIES, HE OR SHE STRIKES, SHOVES, KICKS OR OTHERWISE SUBJECTS
SUCH PERSON TO PHYSICAL CONTACT.

AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER IS A CLASS
E FELONY.

So as of november, if you bump into a police officer, and he happens to drop his donut, you could find yourself spending 4 years in jail.

Perhaps instead of creating more catchall impossible to defend against laws, the legislature should consider why shocking incidents of disrespect are at an all time high? Maybe it's due to people being fed up with abusive police practices.

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Pretty dramatic picture. Fox news, lovely. This has been going on for a while. The odd report of people in LA and other cities freaked out by military gunships flying around.

This "new" legislation sounds very, very bad

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"Check yourself!" "Grab your package and throw the bullets"

Actually quite complicated. I don't think I'm quite coordinated enough

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Well, according to my gangsta physics teacher, the "throwing" of the bullet imparts additional momentum and alters the flight trajectory in such a way that the sonic shock created by the bullet produces a sound reminiscent of gangsta rap, thereby incapacitating the opposing gangsta not only with lead, but the superior power of the shooting gansta to spew crap.

Anyone remember Obama being elected under the banner of hope & change...


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