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NJ gun laws are absolutely ridiculous. There is no way around it. Bottom

There was another case of a guy moving to NJ from Texas. He was gone for a few days, and his parents were concerned, so they notified the police.

He was pulled over, and searched. They found guns, properly stored, in cases, disassembled in his trunk. The guns were legally purchased in Texas, and he was in the process of registering them in NJ.

None of this mattered. 7 years in prison for unlawful possession.

The lesson to be taken from all this, is make sure there is NOTHING in your car, in view, that can be "suspicious".

I don't think a blanket would have saved this man. Maybe from the 5 year conviction, but not from being arrested for the other charges. The cop would just state that he became suspicious based on the blanket covering something up. Note what was said;

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That same argument can be made for ANYTHING at all. They searched the car, and obtained warrants after the fact. I don't understand how the judge could allow that to stand, and not throw out any evidence. I guess probably because the DA asked him not to, and they golf together.



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Which is fine. Just so long as the bastards play by the rules they are supposed to enforce.
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Totally ridiculous There doesn't seem to be any kind of accountability any more. They are supposed to be here to serve and protect the citizenry not be our handlers.

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Here's a good phone call taken on a radio station in my state pertaining to open carry.

to the radio host, Dan Gaffney, for being so damn awesome.
Just listened to the call....

"The way he was looking"

"Looking macho"

"The visual effect"

"To watch the young kids they were traumatized"

is wrong with this old fart. If he was so worried about the kids maybe talk to the mother, find out why kids are so scared of guns?

The handling of that call, and the sentiment by the following caller... both spot on.

I wish more people open carried.

Wonder what would happen if there was a million man open carry march... I'm guessing quite a few people would run scared.
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Wonder what would happen if there was a million man open carry march... I'm guessing quite a few people would run scared.
Would have the potential to escalate quickly and end very very badly for everyone involved, short and long term.

What would be the benefit?

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Would have the potential to escalate quickly and end very very badly for everyone involved, short and long term.

What would be the benefit?

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The benefit would be in forcing recognition from politicians, public, and anti gun folks that guns by themselves are nothing but tools.

If people can see thousands of other people be peaceful with guns... I think that would be a big benefit.

What makes guns such an easy, divisive topic I find, is that to many they carry only a negative connotation. Gun, gunshot, murder, victim, war, death, wound.

The dynamic of the issue changes completely as soon as you change it to the positive. Protect, defend, save, prevent.

With only the negative connotations constantly being pushed out there, you will always have people who will end up agreeing with you in principle, but still not liking guns, or anything gun related.

Unfortunately I expect some professional agitators would latch onto anything like such a march, and cause it to escalate badly.
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My thinking exactly. I understand your intentions, but it is naive to believe that the intelligence community would not have some kind of hidden presence to "create" a truly horrible event to be ingrained in the memories of everyone for years to come and very swiftly change gun laws forever. As it stands now, there are too many guns out there. I'm sure there are quite a few who would go down fighting if it came down to the government trying to take away their guns.

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Madness.

A bit off topic but somewhat relevant...

http://www.alternet.org/civil-libert...nother-beating

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I take my 2nd ammendment rights very seriously, like all of the other rights guaranteed by the constitution. I really don't give a rats arse what the local gun laws are, I always carry when I travel in the US. I'm in California right now, and I'm still protecting myself. I carried when in Chicago and I carried when in NYC. As far as I am concerned, it is the gun laws that are in violation of the supreme law of the land, not me.

I spent the greatest majority of my life working on technologies for the Department of Defense that were developed to defend this great nation. I'll be darned if I'm gonna let some corrupt politicians dictate what constitutional rights I am allowed to enjoy. Probably why they went through the effort of RFID chipping me and giving me a very deadly form of cancer.

Their plan backfired, my cancer is in remission. I've been speaking out about the technologies that they are using against "we the people". Cameras everywhere is just the tip of the iceberg... the EPA mandated that every vehicle manufactured for sale by the 2004 model year be equipped with RFID transponders that interface to 2.45 Ghz checkpoints at literally hundreds of thousands of locations around the US. Currently, they just query for generic vehicle speed and as each vehicle responds, packet headers contain the VIN of the vehicle. DHS has funded, and is still funding the expansion of that system. They can command any vehicle to shut down at any time they want. The next time that vehicle passes a checkpoint, it'll just shut down. The TIL will light up in indication of a major fault. They intend to use this system to automate the enforcement of speed limits in the future. Also to implement a national road tax based upon miles driven.

Don't think so? Just how do you think those "information signs" along freeways get the information to know how long it takes for vehicles to get from that point to exit "XXX"? DHS turns over this sort of statistical data to the DOTs of those states.

This is not just happening in the US, these systems are being built out in europe and asia as well, since the technology is so easy to implement.

It goes even further... with more and more products containing RFID, they have set up product RFID scanners over the highway lanes at most truck weigh stations that scan entire truckloads as they pass, as well as those products in passenger vehicles that pass. Every tire sold has an RFID chip in it that is detected as well. They intend to track every product from manufacture to disposal. This is not to be confused with the other system that reads truck weight, ect. That is a totally different system entirely, operating on a different band.

But enough about RFID, let's get back to guns. I enjoy that subject more ;-)

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I just got back from a trip to San Fransisco. I was beginning to be swayed to at least understand the crappy gun laws, what with so many people and all. A few nights before I left, my good buddy got robbed by three or four "African American" (I call 'em black, doesn't offend me to be called white, but anyway) folks. They had a snub nosed revolver (probably a .38, maybe a .357, doesn't matter) and I swung back to my position of let everyone carry if they want.

I later asked my friend jokingly, "weren't you glad they followed the 10 round limit here in CA?" Naturally they were concealed carrying, which is not allowed in CA unfortunately. If he had had my PX4 storm, (see my post in the gun pics thread) things might have played out differently, but as "law abiding citizens" we followed the rules and left my piece in CO.

Even if we had brought it and he had successfully used it in self defense, he'd still be in trouble cause it holds 17 rounds+1 in chamber. Naturally the cops can carry whatever they want. If you run into trouble, just call them, I'm sure they'll get there in time to save your life
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Well. This certainly puts a new spin on things.

I've been wondering why we haven't really seen the use of RFID chips more... kind of scary to know that in fact it is being used, and how.

I was under the impression that it's a passive system/technology.
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Most are passive in that they require external power to be broadcast in order to activate them. That is what the RFID scanning systems do. They transmit energy to the RFID that is rectified and stored until it builds up enough stored energy to cause the burst transmitter to fire and send its digital ID. Some systems are designed for lower frequencies, such as the VeriChips that were in me. Any source of low frequency electromagnetic radiation will charge it up, such as AM radio stations, shortwave radio transmitters, even electronic ballasts used in flourescent lights or DC/DC converters in LED lamp bulbs and appliances, ect. They can get enough energy to keep chirping out burst transmissions repeatedly. The band used penetrates water and earth so well that the Navy uses it for communicating with subs underwater around the world. These VLF/ULF tiny burst transmitters can even be detected via satellite.

The transponder devices used in cars are different. They are in essence a WiFi interface directly into the CanBUS of the vehicles onboard computer network. They are just not on the normal WiFi band. These systems are much more sophisticated than the average RFID device. There are canned responses set up to simplify tracking, such as the generic speed query, but there are advanced capabilities as well. Given enough time at a location in proximity to one of these checkpoints, they can even reflash the firmare of the vehicles ECUs. They will immobilize your vehicle during this procedure of course. This is to ensure future EPA compliance with firmware updates for those that do not bring their vehicles to the dealership for flash updates. That program is not yet in effect from the EPA side of things, but it had been planned and implemented at the vehicle level prior to the design of this system.

The fellow that implanted me was former NSA, and the FBI traced the electronic serial number from my RFID implant to a batch that had been sold to the NSA. Since the NSA is immune to prosecution, my attempt to bring this to justice failed. This was done because some of the technologies that I had developed for market may be considered a threat to the economy of the US government. It could jeapordize tax revenue if people use hydrogen generated from water to fuel their new hydrogen infrastructure vehicles, instead of buying hydrogen reformed from natural gas from the petro industry. My first patents on catalytic hydrogen production systems were declared classified, so I had to design somewhat simpler workaround systems that could be brought to market without violating my patents NSO (National Secrecy Order).

I truly must defend myself, hence why I carry a gun when I travel. I am still working with manufacturers that build systems to my design specifications, and every now and then I speak at conferences. Mostly about the invasions to our privacy these days, as it seems to be a more popular topic than boring old hydrogen technology ;-)

I want to see more 3D printed hardware, homebrew guns/other weapons, ect. I have a well equipped machine shop at home, and have the ability to make my own weapons if desired. That is still legal in this country, so far. I live in a pro-gun state, and I would not have it any other way. I have multiple manufacturers out here in Kalifornia, and I have been asked to move out here many times. They couldn't pay me enough to move to this communistic state!

I truly believe that we will need to take up arms and protect our very right to survive in this country if the corrupt politicians in charge keep getting their way. I will always fight to uphold the constitution, to the death if required. They will get my guns only when they can pull them from my hands after I am dead!

BTW, I was in Europe and China last year in negotiations with automakers for licensing my hydrogen technologies. The people in China have WAY more freedom now than we have here in the US. That is a sad thing to have to say, but it is so true. We can't even buy unadulterated foods or dairy products here in the US. In China, just about everything is farmed in the local communities where the people live. Much healthier living. Unfortunately, I didn't see anyone with guns there, not even the cops.

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I've been wondering why we haven't really seen the use of RFID chips more... kind of scary to know that in fact it is being used, and how.

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Thank you for expanding on the subject. I've also been doing a little reading on it, and frankly it's rather disturbing.

By comparison the DOT mandate for installation of edrs into cars seems downright mundane.

Unfortunately you're completely right in that in terms of freedom, what we have is the mere of appearance of it, rather than freedom itself. I'm also at a loss as to why state, and town laws are consistently created that run afoul of the most basic constitutional rights.

Most people just don't care though.
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