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I am extremely depressed by the current state affairs.

I was seriously just joking - proposing what I thought was an impossible scenario when I said before it's only a matter of time that just hand gestures, or pictures in a book are taken to be threats with guns.

Finding out that it's already happening... I'm at a loss for words to explain my feelings.

At the same time;
-Obama signs a UN Arms treaty that the US senate voted against...
-A vet has been arrested for firing off a shot into the ground to scare of a burglar - while on his own property.
-Police slam a 14 year old into the ground for staring menacingly and aggressive body language, proceed to place him into a choke hold, handcuffs, and under arrest for ... take a wild guess... resisting arrest.

But it's not ALL bad news. About 500 tons of cocaine were seized recently. So at least the war on drugs is working well. <sarcasm>


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Sure, confiscate "their" drugs that they brought in and sell them again at a profit... I've really stopped believing in government as well at this point. It is an escalating environment of fear and desperation with the "citizens" as pawns in some larger game. But don't say it too loudly

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Luckily there's a local Open Carry organization where I live so it's pretty well known among the police force here that people do it. I'm actually going to start open carrying my Glock 21 soon until I feel like going through the process of getting my CCDW.

Unfortunately I'm a hermit and I don't know 5 citizens living in the same county as me that are good upstanding citizens. So that process is going to be a while.
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Yeah I'm pretty familiar with the state of affairs, though I haven't seen that one. I've been researching for quite a while. Much of what I come across is hard to believe, but the evidence is hard to refute. There is a lot going on that the public is not privy to.

You're lucky Rainbow. America is both wonderful and terrible at the same time. I really grew up believing in the American Dream so it is difficult to see where we are now.



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Unfortunately I wished members of my family and certain friend understood me open carrying. You'd think in this day and age wanting to protect your own life and others would be sufficient enough reason. Especially since some of my family members had a group of black men barge into their house in broad daylight armed with shotguns and rob them. Had a shotgun pointed at the head of my 7 year old cousin. And this happened right down the road from the town I live near. A kid that went to my school was found murdered by blunt force trauma in a ditch near where I live a few months ago also.

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Unfortunately the worse the economy gets the more we will be seeing these kind of events. Desperation and hopelessness make people do horrible things. We seem to have moved away from a sense of community and people taking care of themselves and instead the "State" is supposed to provide and care for us. There are many who feel the destruction of the "family" will open the door to more institutionalized forms of indoctrination ie; schools and the military

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It's rather frightening. We can't expect the police or government to protect us and it's getting to the point where we almost can't even protect ourselves.

Who's supposed to protect us then? Batman?


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Lol Right, power. The power to buy Kevlar Nomex Groin Armour...because it's important.

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Who's supposed to protect us then? Batman?
Bingo. We're a ridiculous point where if you're attacked, and you fight back, killing or injuring your attacker - you yourself will be on trial for assault or murder.

It seems as if only people who are allowed to feel threatened or to fight back are the ones with badges. At best they tend to show up 3-5 minutes after you really need help.

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It's not gun related, but I feel it's kind of an important bit of news.

SCOTUS has ruled 5 to 4 that it is constitutional for police to take a DNA swab at the time of arrest.

This is a rather big blow to privacy rights, and the fourth amendment. Doesn't matter if you are only accused of a crime - DNA will be taken anyway.

Your DNA will be checked against state and federal databases.

This technology is NOT perfect. There have been mistakes already.

What really worries me is this - it could lead to storage of dna profiles for use outside of law enforcement. After historically governments have a lousy track record of destroying, and not sharing information.

On a second scary note - partial matches. Imagine if a cousin or nephew who you, or someone else related to you committed a crime. Not you, however you have a partial DNA match.

How long until cops are knocking on your door to get to the bottom of an otherwise cold case?
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