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The #1 thing that makes the above a dangerous weapon - cops would go nuts trying to figure out under which statute it falls


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you can carry a billy club in FL with a CCW lic. the most ridiculous stuff is legal here and all you need to do is take a 1-2 hour class and fire 5 bullets in front of an instructor to get your CCW certificate and then its $112 to get your license!!! RIDICULOUS

EDIT: i also live in MA and to get it here, you need to take a full day 8 hour class and some sort of test but never done it. then to top it off i believe they deny a ton of applicants. FL pretty much everyone is approved
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Remind me not to piss off anyone in FL

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exactly! its kinda scary how easy it was to get mine
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FL also has the Stand Your Ground law...

Still the reaction of " Remind me not to piss off anyone in FL " is a perfect example of human nature.

People act differently - in a more polite manner - if they are aware that they could very easily come to great harm, or death.

Edit/Aside: One thing I wouldn't necessarily mind, is the further development, and deployment of gun cameras. Any situation that leads itself to a position of he said - she said, or relies on the reporting of a person who is not impartial, kind of scares me. Some police departments already employ taser cams, and surprise surprise! Since the cameras were added, taser use is WAY down.

There is a very recent shooting of an elderly man, who went to check on his neighbors house on hearing the alarm go off. The man was shot five times, and killed. Now if there was a recording of the incident, it would be rather blatantly clear - if the man's gun was pointed down, he was not an immediate threat, and the actions of the police officers in question were at the very least manslaughter.

Of course the official narrative of the story will likely be, as already released by the PD - that the officers fired, in fear for their lives.

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Well, that is the logic behind the Death Penalty. Course, that's a whole nother can of worms.

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Actually, life in prison tends to be a greater psychological deterrent against crime than death. Personally I think a simple death, is far too small of a punishment for some crimes.

You're right though, a BIG can of worms there.
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My opinion is that for the most part the "system" is all about money and control. From Big Pharma to the Military Industrial Complex and Law Enforcement. Fear and terror have always been used to "move" the masses.

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yes life in prison is worst but then we the law abiding citizens have to pay for their stay in prison. death is by far a cheaper way to go but as LB said, another discussion completely!

so that plastic AR-15 is some gun huh
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yes life in prison is worst but then we the law abiding citizens have to pay for their stay in prison. death is by far a cheaper way to go but as LB said, another discussion completely!
Actually that's a common misconception.

A death sentence in the US now days is actually more expensive from the taxpayer perspective, than life in prison.
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This Is The World's First Entirely 3D-Printed Gun (Photos) - Forbes

It seems the AR-15 is only the lower receiver and high capacity magazine. The "Liberator" handgun however is all plastic save for a nail and a piece of metal for the benefit of metal detectors similar to metal rings required for plastic knives and the like. Of course users could choose not to add this.

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Actually that's a common misconception.

A death sentence in the US now days is actually more expensive from the taxpayer perspective, than life in prison.
It wouldn't be if they would carry out the sentence without all the other crap involved. Give me 50 cents and I'll put the 5.56 round between his/her eyes myself. Or give me $4 and I'll make sure you can't tell what his/her head looked like.

The drugs wouldn't be so expensive if it wasn't for the government wanting their part by controlling the companies. I like this country but hate the politicians. 99% of them should have been swallowed or caught by rubber to be thrown away in the trash.
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Actually that's a common misconception.

A death sentence in the US now days is actually more expensive from the taxpayer perspective, than life in prison.
Got a credible source? I'd like to read up on this. This defies logic in my brain!
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know what i just realized......anyone else see where hakwaz got sniped and is in a article about "smuggling" lasers into countries? well if anyone sees this then we all are going to be labeled as criminals looking to "smuggle" guns
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Somehow I doubt the subject has not come up on gun forums already.

More to the point, I don't see anyone actually advocating smuggling a gun. What would be the point?

At present, doing things legally is actually easier... and you get a better gun.

@Meatball - Type " death sentence more expensive than life prison " into google. As with all statistics, and claims there are many answers to choose from.

Either way, the cost of "justice" is staggering, with the criminal justice industry being extremely screwed up.
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