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In general, 3D printing has the potential to be a complete game changer across all industries.

While I expect the anti gun fanatics to up in arms, and certainly the government to be paranoid, I think it will be the copyright lobby that goes nuts (more so than they have) over 3d printers.


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the plastic pistol had a plastic barrel and shot fine. ill have to look into if the AR barrel is plastic or metal but even if its metal, it comes off and going through a scanner who is going to know there is a full gun or not? all they see is a metal tube, most TSA members arent that smart, come on

everytime i go on a cruise i sneak bottles of vodka and rum on the ship and those are illegal/banned. TSA has its good and bad so not to start off topic but they, like everyone else, cant catch everything. look at lasers, how many of our lasers arent supposed to be inside the USA and who is to blame for that, custom agents. TSA is no different or if the gun is shipped it goes back to customs agents and they sure as heck wont stop a metal tube/barrel
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Copyrights, an interesting point Infinitus E. Evokes memories of Napster and Pirate Bay. Although that is the nice part about better printers being available for the home/consumer market. I can't upload anything to Shapeways for example that even resembles a weapon without red flags. At home I can print out "anything" I want. The only limitation is the technology. "Game Changer" big time, I've been an advocate for 3d printing for a while. Very exciting on many levels.

Gotcha, Thank you TonyT and LL. All plastic that is interesting. Well there have been thousands of downloads of his files at this point. The printers are starting at under $1000. I have been learning 3d modeling and looking into printers for a while now. I haven't bought one yet because the quality and resolution of the industrial machines are still better and you have the option of printing metal, but no weapons.

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well the files are already online for the pistol. the AR however i think the guy said he'd put them online or he'd print the receiver and ship that but people would have to make the rest. not sure but ill check into that as well.

i dont see how people cant upload individual parts to a gun to websites for download. i know the pistol is already out online to download so it can be done.
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Yea,....well, while all those guys are spending hundreds and thousands of dollars and hours. Printing and assembling these things, I'll have already built several "zip" guns with a wood stock and Delron for the barrel using a harder piece of plastic for the firing pin. I know you only get 1 shot with a zip- gun but who cares as long as I finish mine before they finish thiers. And for only a few dollars.
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Downloading the files is no problem, it's uploading parts to a company for high quality prints that is the problem. They won't accept the liability is my guess. We'd see some awesome custom knives and custom gun parts if that were the case

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I would love to have a personally sized, custom designed set of brass knuckles *cough* I mean keychains

Unfortunately that's exactly the problem - for the higher quality items you will need to upload the design elsewhere, and most companies are not likely to want to deal with the legalities of the situation.

That said, how long until you can do a 3d scan of your hand here, and upload a design to have your knife, or anything else for that matter, manufactured in china, taiwain, etc,.
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Oh, and as far as bullets go. You can have cardboard tubes like they did in the old days and like I said there is plastic hard enough to make a bullet out of to make them undetectable. All you really need then is a lathe. Um,... I mean know someone who works in a machine shop running a lathe ....yea, that's what I mean.
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as far as brass knuckles go, they are not illegal at all! i can carry them on me with no problem even if a cop stopped me

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That said, how long until you can do a 3d scan of your hand here, and upload a design to have your knife, or anything else for that matter, manufactured in china, taiwain, etc,.
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as far as brass knuckles go, they are not illegal at all! i can carry them on me with no problem even if a cop stopped me

gotta love FL concealed carry licenses and everything they cover!
Unfortunately I live in NJ. Around here, the only way those are legal, is if they are a paperweight.

Only a matter of time until paperweights are outlawed too.

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You don't need to "know anyone", you can buy them from a well known bullet manufacturer. While they won't kill you, they hurt really, really, bad if you are on the receiving end. Their purpose is for practice, but then again scissors are for cutting, not stabbing.....
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as far as brass knuckles go, they are not illegal at all! i can carry them on me with no problem even if a cop stopped me

gotta love FL concealed carry licenses and everything they cover!
Yeah, I'm in CA, not much is legal here, except for weed

Know a Transporter of high end cars had to go through a bunch of loopholes to try and get a CCW lic. Usually hires off duty cops.



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It's actually kind of a fail... Novelty factor aside, with no barrel, the range on the gun would be non existent.

The knife blade is held on with one screw.... very flimsy...

Last as brass knuckles, you can end up breaking your own fingers with that thing.

I'll take a separate knife, with a finger guard, and a proper gun instead please
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