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Umbrella mistaken for assault rifle - New York News | NYC Breaking News

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A New Jersey light rail shutdown was due to an umbrella that was mistaken for an assault rifle.

Someone had reported to police that a man wearing black pants, white dress shirt, with a cast on his arm was "armed with a long barrel assault weapon" had gotten on the train.

It happened Friday morning on NJ Transit's Hudson-Bergen line.

Several light rail trains were held after the report involving a train leaving Liberty State park around 8 a.m.

Police started scouring surveillance videos and was able to track down the man at the Exchange Place station.

Apparently, they were able to determine that the only "weapon" the man had was the umbrella he planned to use later in the day to fight off rain from hitting him.

Trains were rolling again a short time later.
[sarcasm]Seems like the "See something? Say something!" Campaign is finally paying off. [/sarcasm]

Meanwhile of course the police will always be there to protect you...

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/05/...o-budget-cuts/

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“Uh, I don’t have anybody to send out there,” the 911 dispatcher told the woman. “You know, obviously, if he comes inside the residence and assaults you, can you ask him to go away? Do you know if he’s intoxicated or anything?”

The woman told the dispatcher that Bellah previously attacked her and left her hospitalized a few weeks prior to the latest incident. The dispatcher stayed on the phone with the woman for more than 10 minutes before the ***ual assault took place.

“Once again it’s unfortunate you guys don’t have any law enforcement out there,” the dispatcher said, according to Oregon Public Radio.

The woman responded: “Yeah, it doesn’t matter, if he gets in the house I’m done.”



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Sad, but with the recent bombing and the incident in London I can understand why people are freaking out, but an umbrella? Please.





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It freaks anti-gun activists out, but in an interview with the maker, he stated it is so technically challenging that it would be easier to buy a real gun illegally and right now anyway, they tend to break apart after limited usage. Consumer 3-D printing companies also have a no weapons policy; guns, knives etc.

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there is a guy in the process of making a fully undetectable AR-15 and his prototype has run hundreds of rounds with no problems so far. that is something id love to see
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I'm curious to see how he gets around the metal parts? Should be interesting
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NP, i actually saw it in an AR show on i think msnbc so yeah keep an eye out. BTW the guy is on the USA Top 50 deadliest people list
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That's true doctor It's easier to buy a real gun illegally. High end printing (metal, high resolution plastics) is only available commercially right now, ie; uploading a model to be printed on a 1/2 million dollar machine, my only reason for including that.

I saw that "50 deadliest people" list LL. More for the paradigm shift in thinking and showing what is possible. This is the danger to the hobby, very similar to lasers IMO. It only take one very vocal person to ruin it for everyone.

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A few days ago there was a school wide panic because an umbrella was mistaken for a gun.

Which brings us to today;

Microphone, Not Gun, Prompts Lockdown At Chaminade Prep. In West Hills CBS Los Angeles

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Now I wonder how long it takes before some enterprising youth decides one way to avoid taking that pesky exam, would be to just bring an umbrella to school... or a microphone. Or *GASP* a book with a picture of a gun in it?

Meanwhile over on the other side of the pond...

You know, in that civilized country with a city bespeckled with cameras, where crime is of course non existent, the retired head of MI5 has this to offer;

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‘There have often been indications in the community, whether it’s Muslim or anywhere else, that people are becoming extremists and spouting hate phrases.’
Dame Stella said security services had to prioritise the most dangerous threats because ‘thousands’ of people were being radicalised in Britain.

She said further terror attacks on the UK were inevitable unless the country became a ‘police state’.
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I keep seeing this but what's the point of a undetectable AR-15 if the bullets aren't undetectable?


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I keep seeing this but what's the point of a undetectable AR-15 if the bullets aren't undetectable?
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undetectable to this guy was because the govt is regulating these so much that he can now pack it in his luggage (taken apart) and bring it anywhere in the world without hassle. Bullets are always going to be easy to obtain if you know the right people. the gun would be 100% undetectable as long as you dont have bullets loaded in the mag.

also the benefit of this is weight. 100% 3D printed plastic gun vs normal AR-15, there is a big weight difference. finally there is the benefit that you can smash your stock and oh well, ill just go print another one instead of having to pay and wait for a new one. with 3D printing its just pulling up the file online or designing your own and then press print

it will be a completely customizable AR that you can design how you want. no longer are you limited by what companies offer or wait time.

IMO its cool as heck but everyone is different
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Perhaps it's my fault. When I thought of an undetectable firearm my thoughts went to people using it for illegal means which is why I questioned the use without bullets.

And what about the firing pin? I watched a bit of the video but was it ever explained what it was made out of? I'm just questioning how long the rifle would last. He got 100 through it before it failed didn't it?

I myself find this to be pretty interesting too. I just turned 21 last month and bought my first handgun, so I've got the "gun fever." Getting 500 rounds of .45 ACP in the mail tomorrow.

I'm just saying I have doubts about the use.
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undetectable to this guy was because the govt is regulating these so much that he can now pack it in his luggage (taken apart) and bring it anywhere in the world without hassle. Bullets are always going to be easy to obtain if you know the right people. the gun would be 100% undetectable as long as you dont have bullets loaded in the mag.

also the benefit of this is weight. 100% 3D printed plastic gun vs normal AR-15, there is a big weight difference. finally there is the benefit that you can smash your stock and oh well, ill just go print another one instead of having to pay and wait for a new one. with 3D printing its just pulling up the file online or designing your own and then press print

it will be a completely customizable AR that you can design how you want. no longer are you limited by what companies offer or wait time.

IMO its cool as heck but everyone is different
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What about the barrel and metal parts? I remember people had a hissy fit over the Glock being able to pass undetected as a "plastic gun", which was totally untrue. If he got around that I'd be interested in seeing it.

On a side note, US Spec Ops have been requesting 3D printers for in the field. The plan is instead of carrying a bunch of equipment onto the battlefield, they can just print up equipment as needed. Interesting

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