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TL;DR at the bottom

I haven't been watching this thread very much, so I apologize if this is already brought up here, but I learned something new today that is very relevant to the assault weapons ban.

Pro-gunners often keep open the possibility that the US government could go corrupt. Anti-gunners often propose that major corruption only occurs in places like North Korea or China, and that the American system can't be abused enough to warrant violence to stop it.

However, I did find one incident in US history where American citizens successfully used guns against a tyrannical government right here in the US. Today I learned a bit about the battle of Athens. I didn't read as much as I should have on the topic, but basically there was this guy who became sheriff in Tennessee and abused his power. He took bribes and arrested people solely for the money. He rigged elections so he couldn't be taken out of power. He made his way into state senate and one of his deputies became sheriff, who continued to be corrupt.

The fraud started around 1936, was investigated in the early 40's but nothing was done. At the end of WWII when the veterans started coming home, they were being targeted as people to wrongly arrest and fine for money. Naturally, the vets were getting pissed at the corruption that was going on.

They stayed at the polls for sheriff to make sure nothing went on, but the deputies closed the polls and one even shot a black man for trying to vote. The deputies took the poll boxes to the jail to rig the election. The vets had access to a local national guard armory. Armed, they went to the prison and at first tried to peacefully receive the poll boxes. The deputies didn't comply so they open fired. The deputies were barricaded so the vets had no choice but to blast the doors with dynamite. The deputies, some of which were wounded, then surrendered. The polls were counted before they could be tampered with, and the veterans cleaned and returned the national guard weapons to the armory. They weren't prosecuted.


TL;DR The local government in Athens, TN went corrupt and tyrannical and rigged polls so they could continue to do so. Some armed WWII veterans took action and restored law to the area. This is a good example of the second amendment being used right here in the US to stop tyranny.
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Glad you could get it done on the second try <smirk>

They are cracking down on knives in the US too. Fact of the matter is, in NJ for example, a law has been on file for a long time to allow cops to arrest people, and charge them for possession, even if the item in question is nothing serious.

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N.J.S.A. 2C:39-4(d), "any person who has in his possession any weapon, except a firearm, explosive or destructive device, with a purpose to use it unlawfully against the person or property of another is guilty of a crime of the third degree." The material elements that must be established by a prosecutor in order to obtain a conviction are: (1) possession of a "weapon"; (2) purpose to use the item against person or property of another; and (3) the intended use is unlawful.
The statute is intentionally broad so that it can cover anything the over zealous cops decide even looks dangerous.

Seeing the pictures in that article. It seems everyone with a kitchen is a criminal according to the wonderful folks over in UK...

"Blades: The killer weapons were collected in a period of just four months."


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Very interesting, and useful information. Thanks for sharing.
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**EDIT** -- A new "crack-down" in the UK = The "Knives End Lives" campaign

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Wow. How incredibly predictable. And how ridiculous. My father grew up in a small Kansas town on a beef ranch. Back then, he and his brothers would never go to school without a knife. Why? Because at that time, knives were tools, not weapons.

To this day, my father is still always found to have at least 4-5 knives of various sizes to be found on his person. One of them is actually a concealed part of one of his belt buckles. A different kind of wolverine.

If only UK politicians knew how easy it really is to form a knife from most anything.. and you don't even need a knife to start with.
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Some more articles from today;

Police Chief: We Can Disarm Americans Within A Generation | CNS News

EXCLUSIVE: Journalist Accosted by Security over Mayor Bloomberg Gun Control Question

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This is just INSANE:

Hyannis 5-Year-Old Threatened With Suspension For Making Gun Out Of Legos CBS Boston

Watching that school superintendent made me a little nauseous.
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Hyannis 5-Year-Old Threatened With Suspension For Making Gun Out Of Legos CBS Boston

Watching that school superintendent made me a little nauseous.
Omg that's just crazy, it's just Legos lady

I have a Glock 23 w/ 2-13 round clips filled with the new zombie bullets "just in case" and a concealed weapons permit for protection and home defense. I will never give up my right to bare arms!

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Omg that's just crazy, it's just Legos lady
When I was a kid, I, and all of my friends, used to have fake toy guns. At the time they actually also in some cases looked like guns, none of those orange tips, and funky bright colors.... wonder what she would make of one of our games, and us using water balloons as grenades.

Up next, we'll have kids being suspended for assault if they poke each other with a finger, or yell mean things at each other.

Edit: Actually one of my favorite toys, was a mechanical 1911 replica that fired pellets... looked completely real, just obviously the weight was completely off.

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Up next, we'll have kids being suspended for assault if they poke each other with a finger, or yell mean things at each other.
"Bullying" is already an actionable offense in many (if not most) schools in the US
"Poking" and yelling would definitely be considered bullying

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"Bullying" is already an actionable offense in many (if not most) schools in the US
"Poking" and yelling would definitely be considered bullying

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What the hell even happened to kids/people just getting into a fight, and getting along after? I suddenly feel very old, and very sad.
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So uhm, yeah, these are the wonderful folks you're supposed to rely on, when seconds count...

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