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02-20-2015, 04:57 AM #1
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Group Meditation Experiments

OK, how does this work?

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02-20-2015, 06:16 AM #2
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

OH? Are we gonna start THIS sht again? Okay, here we go.

CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION. IT'S A SIMPLE GODDAMN CONCEPT.
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02-20-2015, 06:25 AM #3
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

Group meditation? Like what those bald headed guys do in a dojo way up in the mountains?

02-20-2015, 06:42 AM #4
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

LOL, finally got a response from the master now if I can get him to start answering my laser questions again!

Maybe this explains why I have such interests? Here's part of my www.23andme.com results:

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Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

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02-20-2015, 07:36 AM #5
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Cyparagon OH? Are we gonna start THIS sht again? Okay, here we go. ... CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION. IT'S A SIMPLE GODDAMN CONCEPT.
Thanks for the laugh! Wonder if all the stats are real.
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02-20-2015, 02:08 PM #6
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

This is some epic trolling. Love it.

02-20-2015, 06:39 PM #7
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

LOL

The chart didn't actually seem in the described "lockstep" anyway?

The follow up studies, you would think, all used the same world peace statistics...so, they SHOULD have gotten identical results....but they didn't.

IE: If a study tracks "peace" for a given length of time, say a year....

And, "peace" is defined (By the speaker) as an index of bombs dropped, casualties in war, etc...no matter WHAT you plotted it against, it should say the exact same thing.

IE: Lets say there was a little bit of war in that year, a 100 people died, to simplify the stats.

If I plot ANYTHING against that, I should be getting whatever I did, compared to that 100 deaths.

So, I twiddle my thumbs, and, I get that death rate.

I watch TV, I get that death rate.

No matter what, that's the death rate.

So, as no two wars or times of conflict are the same, there is no control or baseline.

It would be perhaps slightly less ludicrous if the meditation started during a period of peace, to ensure no war or "lack of peace" broke out.

If the peace broke down during the meditation, it would show the meditation didn't stop it.

Or

We could consider that thinking about things doesn't change anything except what you think about those things.

Uri Geller, etc, proved you can't use your mind to effect things outside of your mind. Maybe in the future, we can harness the brain's power in some exterior way, perhaps the way an electric eel can channel ITS energy (electrical in that case).

In the meantime, I Plan to read about lasers to promote world peace.

02-20-2015, 08:04 PM #8
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

I don't know if their study is solid or not, that meditating for peace can influence others to have a like state of mind, but this speaker sure seemed convinced of it and claims the study was rock solid. I was wondering what you all thought about it, so posted.

By the way, what the hell is that yellow eyed bird? Most goofy animal I've ever seen!
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02-20-2015, 11:05 PM #9
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Alaskan I don't know if their study is solid or not
It's not. It's not peer-evaluated and doesn't propose any mechanism. It's two charts plus confidence. No science here at all.

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Alaskan what the hell is that yellow eyed bird?
That's a potoo

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02-21-2015, 01:55 AM #10
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Wow, it's a real bird. https://images.search.yahoo.com/sear...o&fr=yfp-t-901
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Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

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02-21-2015, 02:20 AM #11
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

Granted, correlation isn't evidence of causation.

But lack of evidence isn't evidence of lack.

I maintain that internet explorer still could be the cause of murders in the US.
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02-21-2015, 02:27 AM #12
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

Oh geez that bird cuteness level is off the charts
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02-21-2015, 06:46 AM #13
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Re: Group Meditation Experiments

Look up "blue footed booby". It's totally real.

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Quote:
 Originally Posted by VisibleGreen Look up "blue footed booby". It's totally real.
Yes there are in fact several different kinds of "Booby", not just a left and a right Booby.

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02-21-2015, 04:35 PM #15
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Angular Size Calculator; use with diode angle of radiation specification to calculate the needed lens diameter for a given FL:
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Divergence to spot size calculator: http://tinyurl.com/spotsize - 1 mRad is about .057 degrees which from the earth would expand to be ~10% the diameters of the moon or sun at their distances.

Divergence Calculator: http://www.pseudonomen.com/lasers/ca...alculator.html - Measure your lasers beamwidth at 1 foot & then at a further distance to calculate the divergence.

Online calculator to determine spot intensity at different mRad's & powers @ distances: http://tinyurl.com/divergence-calculator

Laser Power Density Calculator: http://www.ophiropt.com/laser-measur...ity-calculator

How to build a laser beam expander to reduce divergence: http://tinyurl.com/BeamExpander

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

YAG Power Calculator, i.e. convert ns @ mJ to peak power in watts http://tinyurl.com/YAG-Pulse

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