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Although I totally disagree with your belief in this matter, I very much appreciate the effort you took in collecting and now sharing these photos

+1

Thank you

Peace,
dave


I knew that a simple foil hat wouldn't be enough so I did some searching. I think that I've found the solution to the problem.

I thought Wes was a....ah...feltcher

Urban Dictionary: feltcher

You Fucking sick minded faggot.

conspiracy theorist

Lmao that guy is a true fag

So are you saying you are only have a fag???

i wonder if that hat does anything...

Yeah... it keeps to top of your head dry in the rain...

Jerry

Kind of looks like Dave 20 years ago LOL

hahaha oh wow, new word of the day!!

ftfy.

I think Dave has some Scottish relatives if that's the case...

Woah! A real SHTF thread on a LASER GEEK FORUM??!!! Regardless who started it or why. IMHO the paranoia is a bit justified. Never before has the American gov't taken such drastic measures to save it's self since the CIVIL WAR. Take it as you will , put bluntly, we are all in way over our heads:

Fact 1: We are currently losing 500,000 jobs a month. The unemployment dip, according to the person writing the piece, occurred because 600,000 people were paired from the workforce (tired of looking, benefits expired). Real unemployment is NOW over 20%. Note the cleaver uses of words to casually omit this fact from many newspapers.

Fact 2: US deficit stands at 1.3 trillion dollars and GROWING! that's DEFICIT, not NATIONAL DEBT, to give you an idea how much money that is, You may want to see here:

Visualizing One Trillion Dollars | MintLife Blog | Personal Finance News & Advice

Fact 3: The stock markes are being kept alive by a shell game! Go and check the daily trades, the musical chair trading stands out like a sore thumb...

Fact 4: The feds continue to monetize the debt by participating in their own little ponzi scheme of having others buy our debt, and quickly (secretely) re-purchasing the debt from them. (see above)

Fact 5: 72 banks have failed, many more are so deperate for CASH that they will give you 50, 100, 150, 200 Dollars to open a FREE checking account and keep it open for a year! The FDIC is in such dire straits, that they have asked for even more money.

Fact 6: Foreign nations have been releasing longer term treasuries, and are now purchasing short term notes, watch the after hours markets on kitko lately???

Fact 7: Fannie Mae just released info that they lost $14.8 billion in the 2nd quarter. OUCH!

Fact 8: Alt A loans begin resetting this year. Another housing collapse is imminent, this time it will take COMMERCIAL real estate markets with it too...

Fact 9: in case you missed it above... The commercial real estate loan bubble is to begin collapsing later this year.

Fact 10: A watchdog group says the cost to the US to save the failing banking institutions could cost $24 trillion! That is $80,000 for every man, woman, and child in the US! NOTE: that is EVERY ONE, not just TAX PAYERS!

Fact 11: The proposed cap and trade legislation AKA ACES bill, will bankrupt energy producing states (Louisiana, Texas, and Oklahoma), raise energy rates across the nation, and cost many thousands of jobs in the energy sector. Cheap energy is the key to a thriving economy, cheap and clan all the better, but the bill is not designed to do this- if you read it... It has one purpose, to artificially rise the cost of consumer goods and services so the inflation can be justified!

Fact 12: The proposed health care reform will destroy the insurance sector, and the many thousands employed in this sector. Not many tears for it, but without insurance what then? Ever been to a welfare office? You get what you pay for. The cost of mandating small business to provide health insurance will result in many more lost jobs too.

Fact 13: As of mid-July, there have been 1.5 million foreclosures: that is one foreclosure every 13 seconds. Are you one of them?

Fact 14: Through 2012, economists expect 9 million more foreclosures. That equals to another 2 trillion dollars of lost property value, not to mention a small city of HOMELESS people...

Fact 15: By the end of September, roughly 500,000 people will have exhausted their unemployment benefits. They will then be removed from the register as unemployed...

Fact 16: 33.8 million americans receive food stamps. That is 10% of the population, not counting the 4 million people in prisons around the country.

Fact 17: Latest economic news concerning the housing market say that there is a 5 year glut of unsold homes on the market today.

Fact 18: $108 Billion in commercial loans are in default since the 1st of the year. Default means more than 60 day PAST DUE! That's BILLION with a B people!

Fact 19: Advanta Corp (the credit card people) said their default rate hit 57%!!! And so it begins < better try and pay off your DEBT!!!!

Fact 20: The US GDP contracted at almost 6% in the FIRST QUARTER of this year. Anyone care to do a little algebra on that to project the slope/rate of decline??? OMFG!!!! The great depression didn't even do THAT!

Now, you can believe what you want. I believe facts.

I can list more, but it shouldn't take a degree in math to crunch the numbers a little and conclude we are SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why I love scandinavia

Just think, they spent this money suporting inept/corrupt institutions, to put money flow back into the system........
If they had given every tax payer $80,000 would they have put it under the matress? No they would have put it in the bank.... or bought a car...or used it to buy a home.

That in my opinion would have been a far better way to restart the economy, ok I know I am in the UK but they did exactly the same here.

another 2 pennies spent....b*gg*r

Regards rog8811

What do you expect LOL?? Bush raped this country for 8 years, yet no one said a thing. Now people expect the new president to fix it all in under 1 year. It's not going to happen.

Man I'm glad I live in Canada (not saying we don't have our share of problems)...
But if I can't pay my debts because my house is in disarray and too expensive to
keep up I'll just sell it...

Maybe the USA should be sold to China or Japan or someone that can eat the debt....

Jerry

The problem is though the US economy is going down the tubes, the economies of most of Europe, Asia, and South America are even WORSE OFF. What this means in short is we are heading into a LONG SLOW and PAINFUL global economic depression that will last at least a decade. If we don't plan for it and adjust accordingly than the consequences will be grave.

Yeah most of the US cant get past the "Keeping Up With The Jones" attitude. No one is happy with just a comfortable life, they always think "more" will bring them happiness. The ideals of the republicans and democrats are also outdated. The whole system needs an enema, but it wont happen. Like Chris said, we are screwed.

I sure am happy I don't have to worry about all this crap.

This thread is great.

And those "nanothermite" (what the hell is nanothermite?! I call BS...) and so called thermite cuts are just shear fracturing from immense pressure and skewed weight distribution.

Molten iron/steel? Umm...no. As said before, just aluminum. They look the same when molten.

High explosives would probably not even start a fire like jet fuel would. They would be completely done in a fraction of a second.

The temperatures you provided, Wes, are very wrong. Fires are much hotter than that. You say molten steel at 1300 degrees Fahrenheit, well, guess what. A freaking candle burns hotter than that. Definitely not hot enough to melt steel!

-Mark

Yeah so what do you guys think about this video and what there saying ?

Why is there a small explosion ?

I want just 1 person to read this webpage and tell me that its not correct in what it says

Demolition of the World Trade Center