Extreme Parenting – Taking Tough Love to an All New Level

Eudaimonium said:

On one hand, a parent will do anything for their kid to make them happy...

On other, the less you have, the more you appreciate what you DO have.

Finding that incredibly fine line is a task in which not many parents succeed, unfortunately. It's easier talking about how "...they should stop buying all the expensive shit for her kid", but I believe that once you're in that position, viewpoint changes dramatically.

But still, I find it hard to believe that someone just has to buy all the iCrap. One phone OK, one music player ... still somewhat OK. But then iPad and then new phone and then another new player, damn, where's the limit?

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See I'm not saying she should stop buying the expensive shit for her kid at all. I'm saying that for a 6yo it's inappropriate.

In my personal opinion, a child should only have a phone (basic phone to make calls) after the age of 10 and only for emergencies. Computers are a different thing. They need them now days but not constantly. A Desktop is all I would buy my child and they would have strict time limits and the internet would limited until homework is done. No matter how much I want my child to have everything they ever wanted, I would also want to make sure they don't become technology dependant and disrespectful.

Lase

Whoa, that kid is spoilt. I had many people like that in high school, it annoyed me.

I would want them to have a cell for emergencies as well but not a basic phone, I'd go for a (used) android for GPS tracking & remote camera.
As soon as I have a child in school I would start considering getting them a android. I would likely sew a hidden zipper pocket into their backpack for it. If only I could fit it into their shoe. Kidnap my kid & I'll hunt you.

HaloBlu said:

I would want them to have a cell for emergencies as well but not a basic phone, I'd go for a (used) android for GPS tracking & remote camera.
As soon as I have a child in school I would start considering getting them a android. I would likely sew a hidden zipper pocket into their backpack for it. If only I could fit it into their shoe. Kidnap my kid & I'll hunt you.

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Wouldn't be easier to just buy a piece of tacky jewelry with a gps tracker?

Or better yet, implant your kid with one at birth while you're at it:tinfoil:

InfinitusEquitas said:

Wouldn't be easier to just buy a piece of tacky jewelry with a gps tracker?

Or better yet, implant your kid with one at birth while you're at it:tinfoil:

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Get the microchipped with return details as well

HaloBlu- Why does a school aged child need anything other than a basic phone that makes calls/send texts? There is no reason for them to have a smartphone at school. When I was still at school camera phones were being banned because of all the bullshit involved with them getting stolen, kids taking photos in the girls toilets, disrupting lessons.

Lase

Let them have a android if they pay for it. My parents made me buy everything I wanted. I wanted a gameboy so bad in like 3rd grade but my dad wouldn't buy me one for my birthday so I saved up for a year and went to target and bought one. I treated it like a baby because I EARNED it. I played metroid so fooking much


Edit. I guess it wanst really for them but the gps etc I agree with ie though a watch or something would be easier

bennett326 said:

Let them have a android if they pay for it. My parents made me buy everything I wanted. I wanted a gameboy so bad in like 3rd grade but my dad wouldn't buy me one for my birthday so I saved up for a year and went to target and bought one. I treated it like a baby because I EARNED it. I played metroid so fooking much


Edit. I guess it wanst really for them but the gps etc I agree with ie though a watch or something would be easier

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And THAT'S what it's all about!

Learning the value of what you have - ungrateful brat in the video not only didn't value sh*t, she didn't value her parents and closest family before all!

I get the feeling that she will. I'll buy that man a beer if I'm ever in that part of the world, for sure.

Eudaimonium said:

she didn't value her parents and closest family before all!

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While not applicable for the case this thread is based on (because the father clearly is a half-way decent parent as evident by his actions) I feel compelled to point out that family structure, family value, and quality of family in the US is VERY FAR from what it is in europe and perhaps the rest of the world. So, while valuing family above all is how it should be in general, it simply is not the case nor is it appropriate in many of the typical families here. I come from such a family. How I turned out to be unlike the completely worthless fleshbags that my relatives are... is still amazing to me and my wife's family. Now, I'm not saying I was given tons of expensive stuff and everything I wanted and turned out fine - quite the opposite; I learned to do without from an early age and had to earn everything I cherish. My point is more that there are cases where children do not value their family "as they should" because their family is not worthy of that level of value. Again, the family referenced in the video and this thread do not fall in to that category, I'm just commenting on the idea of valuing one's family before everything else.

With the exception of my younger sister who I mostly raised; I'd breathe an easy sigh of relief if the rest of my "family" dropped dead.

Sigurthr said:

While not applicable for the case this thread is based on (because the father clearly is a half-way decent parent as evident by his actions) I feel compelled to point out that family structure, family value, and quality of family in the US is VERY FAR from what it is in europe and perhaps the rest of the world. So, while valuing family above all is how it should be in general, it simply is not the case nor is it appropriate in many of the typical families here. I come from such a family. How I turned out to be unlike the completely worthless fleshbags that my relatives are... is still amazing to me and my wife's family. Now, I'm not saying I was given tons of expensive stuff and everything I wanted and turned out fine - quite the opposite; I learned to do without from an early age and had to earn everything I cherish. My point is more that there are cases where children do not value their family "as they should" because their family is not worthy of that level of value. Again, the family referenced in the video and this thread do not fall in to that category, I'm just commenting on the idea of valuing one's family before everything else.

With the exception of my younger sister who I mostly raised; I'd breathe an easy sigh of relief if the rest of my "family" dropped dead.

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Is your wifes family at least decent?

I too have issues with my family, but I still have respect for them. I spent 5 years not talking to them and have only seen them in the last week because my Grandfather died and I had to attend the funeral. But even after everything (stuff the I've seen other families fight over at funerals) we all respected the family and kept it civil.

Regardless of anything that may happen or what kind of people your family are I think you have to respect them on a certain level.

Lase

Oh man, Sigurth, I'm so sorry to hear that.

I come from a family for which I'd give every single thing I own, because after all, I do owe them everything, and love them above all. It's difficult hearing about situation such as yours for me.

But, regarding the comparison of families between different countries/continents - I don't think you can do that, I think that's some sort of "stereotyping" that doesn't actually prove true.

While you may happen to have a statistic or something saying that some subject in question is like, 1% worse than that same subject in say, Europe, who says it's because of the country or have anything to do with geographic location at all?
It just happens to be that way, no reason behind it at all, next year perhaps the country in Europe you were comparing the statistic to drops 3% and it's a whole different story. Who knows?

And while the father there is decent, no question, you cannot say that posting THAT on a Facebook wall about her own parents after they've spend a large amount of money on bullshit she probably don't even need, yesterday (!), doesn't say something about her priorities, values and viewpoints. I'm sure it does and that needs rectifying.

With a .45 hollow points. :na:

Aye, I don't think it has to do with geographical region, but rather the prevalent culture of the region. It has been my observation that European culture is less likely to foster a family dynamic akin to the type I had. The only reason I say it is better in Europe is because between my few visits to Eurpoe and the dozen or so friends I have there, none of them have heard of families similar to the ones I know so well over here (including mine). Observational data can often be wrong but what that is often all we individuals ever really have. So it is possible that statistically Europe is no better, but it is less out in the open there than it is here. You don't have to look hard to find it here.

I completely agree with your assessment of the girl and her priorities, that's why I said my post did not relate to the thread directly, hehe. Apples and oranges, my friend!

Re: Lase; I acted (and still do act) respectfully when dealing with them but I harbor no real respect for them as human beings. I attribute this to the fact I'm not an impolite uncivil dumbass, haha. I'm sure I did at some point but as the years went on it either atrophied or was abandoned.

And yes, my wife's family is fantastic. It was a real shock for me when I first met them, I never experienced a real family before so I was completely stunned, haha.